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Red John......aka Amos Van Pelt?
So the producer Bruno Heller has said that RJ will be one of the individuals on PJ's list.  What if the list that PJ shared with Lisbon was another fake just like the one Kirkland got a hold of?  Is there another secret list that the audience has not yet been made aware of?  This would make sense as the last time PJ included Lisbon on his plan to "play" RJ, it got back to RJ through the CBI and PJ confirmed there was indeed a mole inside the CBI.  PJ is not the type of man to make the same mistake twice.  PJ knows that in order for him to finally catch RJ, he's going to need to feed the moles/pigeons as much false info as possible in order to throw RJ off of his track.  Not to mention the fact that the biggest telltale giveaway that the list is not legit is the fact that PJ hasn't taken voice recordings of the seven to Rosalind Harker to identify which one is RJ (this would be a huge oversight on PJ's part which just does not seem plausible).  The Mentalist is one of the smartest shows out there and there have been many clues given to RJ's identity over the seasons as well as many red herrings thrown in for good measure.  A good investigator can separate the red herrings from that information that is truly important. 
So what is one of the most important clues that sticks out like a sore thumb on the Mentalist?  I would have to say that would be the mystery shrouding Grace Van Pelt and her past.  All of the other main characters have had at least one episode dedicated to exploring their past and what made them each the person they are today......everyone that is except Grace.  We know very little about GVP.  We do know her father Amos Van Pelt was a football coach and has a cousin who is a psychic and that her sister died ("Throwing Fire" episode) , likely committing suicide (even though she denied this, it was apparent it was true).  In the "Bloodshot" episode, Jane makes a remark to GVP stating "you're deeply repressed and emotionally shut down....because of a trauma in your past that you've never spoken of to anyone....not even yourself".  That's an extremely strong statement from PJ, a statement that is obviously going to brought to light very soon. 
I think one of the most interesting episodes providing clues pointing to the fact that Amos Van Pelt is RJ is the episode "Red Rum".  This episode is about a father who murders his football playing son.  One of the most interesting things that stuck out in my mind from this episode was the football locker room which displayed a large "Tiger" banner in the background as well as cherry (blood?) red lockers.  Where in the world have you ever seen cherry red lockers in a boys football locker room?  Not to mention the fact that GVP had more then a minor "hate-on" for the football coach.  Interesting that the "father" in this episode turned out to be the murderer.  We have seen much in the last few episodes regarding the developing importance of pigeons relating to RJ.  Pigeons are almost interchangeable with "doves".  In the new testament a dove is the symbol of the Holy Spirit.  In the old testament its the only bird which could be offered as a "sacrifice".  It is interesting to note that the name of the witch in the "Red Rum" episode is "Tamzin Dove".  The "Red Rum" episode involved witchery as well as Satanic practices and sacrifices.  Most interestingly perhaps, is the title of the episode itself-"Red Rum"-murder spelled backwards as well as also being a synonym for "blood".  A common term-"Red Rum is what was wrote in the wall in blood at the murder scene".  Sound familiar-like RJ's trademark and what about the "He is Mar/Man?" written on the murder scene wall of the "Red John's friends" episode.  Which again leads us back to the possible "football" connection"  I do think that Red John wrote this on the wall after he committed the murder and I do think he was giving a "hidden" clue to PJ re his identity (giving the dog a bone).  "The Heisman trophy" is likely a trophy that AVP won in his earlier years as a football player" .  That would explain the way the clue was written-"He is mar".  After all, RJ couldn't make it too easy for PJ to figure out could he?  Iowa (where GVP supposedly hails from) also has a collegiate football team called the "Tigers".

It is also interesting to note that the subject of conversation that lit the initial spark between Craig O'Laughlin and Grace Van Pelt  ("The blood on his hands" episode) was the subject of her football coach father AVP.  Also interesting that the murder victim in this episode had a "V" (or 3 point?) tattoo signifying she was a Visualize member.  This could have been a foretelling/prelude of what was to come in last week's episode.

These are just a few of my observations that has led me to believe that AVP is Red John.  As PJ's admitted "fake" list of suspects, I believe that his proclaimed "real" list of 7 are subjects whom are all scumbags of one sort or another and PJ wouldn't lose any sleep over any of their demise.  Some are obviously RJ accomplices, some are not but are pretty twisted and sadistic (Kirkland) and some may be other serial killers themselves (Partridge?).  It would appear that based on the murder scene where Partridge was found, he was into some sort of devil worship. 
Bringing us back to "The Desert Rose" episode.  RJ didn't kill Lisbon for a reason.  I think it is because she is a good friend of GVP and despite the fact he is a cold blooded killer, he loves and is protective over GVP.  Kristina Frye is another woman GVP liked and she was also spared her life by RJ (albeit she wasn't left with much of a life).  I think that Kristina may be a relative of Grace (unknowingly) or RJ and that may be why her life was spared as well.  Who knows, maybe Kristina is actually Grace's Mother? (same red hair).  There was a reason she was kept alive therefore I think she still has a role to play out in this series.  

The meaning of the biblical name "Amos" is a prophet and shepherd.  RJ is the epitome of a shepherd-gathering his flock of disciples and leading them in the direction he wants them to go.  Do I think GVP knows or is a willing accomplice to her father?  No I don't.  I think AVP was responsible for his other daughter's (Grace's sister) suicide.  Perhaps she found out he was a serial killer and took her own life.  Perhaps GVP either knows this or has repressed memories where she knows her father is evil but doesn't know why.  I find it a quite strange that GVP dreamt of her "fairytale" wedding but made no mention of inviting her father to the nuptials (what girl doesn't want her Father at her wedding?) What about Grace's Mother?  Does she have something to do with the fact that RJ primarily likes to kill women?  Was GVP's Mother cheating on AVP and did he murder her?  Is this why he started his killing spree against women?  I think that AVP does have a power over GVP and I do think he has been extracting important information from her (unwittingly).  The first time RJ contacted PJ was through GVP who was at the helm of the CBI computer at the time.

It can't be merely coincidence that Grace and Rigsby are leaving the show for at least a season after this year.  This would make sense that if AVP is indeed RJ, Grace and Rigsby would likely need to leave CBI for a period of time after RJ is caught (if they do indeed survive-which I think and hope they will). 

I think the most important clue of the series is PJ's statement "RJ doesn't leave clues.  If you have new evidence, it's because he want's you to have it.  The question isn't "What does it mean"; it's "Why did he give it to you?'.  I think RJ leaves clues to both taunt and attempt to lead PJ astray, depending on how close he thinks he is to being caught.  I think that it's very possible he had one of his accomplices such as Ray Haffner go to the psychiatric session with PJ's psychiatrist and her evaluation was based on Haffner not RJ and RJ was perfectly aware of the audio recording in her drawer (RJ wanted PJ to find that recording).  I think the only clue that PJ has received that wasn't intended by RJ was the tattoo clue given by the  blond P.I. on the last episode.  PJ is now closing in on RJ and he that is why PJ got an actual non set-up clue to RJ's identity.

There is much more such as the fact that I believe PJ met and shook hands with RJ prior to his wife and daughter's murder.  I am guessing was likely during one of PJ's evangelical "scamming" sessions.  I think Brett Stiles is likely a long term friend, brother or even father of RJ and that is why he knows so much about RJ yet is rather indifferent to him and his crimes.  I do definitely think Brett will be the last man standing of the list of 7 (after all, he is the absolutely brilliant Malcolm McDowell).  The prenom Van as is "Van Pelt" is also known as a "wealthy" name which supports the fact that RJ is a wealthy and powerful man much like Stiles.

It will be very interesting to see what the next several weeks bring on my favorite show-The Mentalist!

 

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This is completely annoying.  It's a TV show.  Red John could be anyone.  The script doesn't have to follow the clues.  It feels like the show is rolling out like the last episodes of Lost... it could go any direction that the producer feels will get better ratings. 

I think that Red John will be Lisbon... because it would be a huge twist.  And Jane will struggle between his feelings of wanting to kill Red John and wanting to make out with her... think of the twist! 

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According to Achille in a previous theory, we have to refer especially in the first and the 15s05, both realised by Allison Sanders.
She directed a movie named "mi vida loca" wich is the signification of a three point tattoo
It's actually a smart move and i'll follow this theory.

So i watched both of them and one character could actually fit in.
Ray Haffner is too obvious but could clearly be his right arm, mc Allister is a bit old.

I think Red John is the priest Peter Dibuono.

He own the farm in ellis county for 2 years during 86/87, he was probably one of the only people aware about the room under the barn.
His age is perfect, and he could have connection with style, haffner, he was a member of visualise.
He explain his disagreement with style and his wish to go deeper in his own research of spirituallity during his interview with Van Pelt.
He also say that he travelled a long time after he quit visualise.
That could explain why red john activities start only ten years after this first painting on the wall of the barn.
moreover, william blake is a biblical poet, john is a name of an apostle, john the red, peter dibuono, peter the good in english.

He never shake jane's hand, that could explain why he wasn't on jane's list, but they have a real connection during the episode.

Last thing, he is charismatic, smart, the director give him importance for no real reason...

The priest Peter Dibuono.

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The Mentalist -
Episode 6.07 - The
Great Red Dragon -
Press Release

The Mentalist
FOLLOWING THE
SHOCKING EVENTS AT
JANE’S HOUSE, THE RED
JOHN LIST IS
NARROWED DOWN
FURTHER, AND THE
CBI’S PRIORITY IS THE
REMAINING SUSPECTS,
ON “THE MENTALIST,”
AT A SPECIAL TIME,
SUNDAY, NOV. 10
“The Great Red Dragon”
— Following the
shocking events at
Jane’s house, the Red
John list is narrowed
down further, and the
CBI’s priority is the
remaining suspects, on
THE MENTALIST, at a
special time, Sunday,
Nov. 10 (10:30-11:30 PM,
ET/CT, 10:00–11:00 PM,
PT) on the CBS
Television Network.
CHEAT TWEET: Jane
finally thinks he knows
#RedJohn’s identity! Is
he right? And will he
find him in time? #
TheMentalist 11/10
http://bit.ly/16h49DG
SERIES REGULARS:
Simon Baker (Patrick
Jane)
Robin Tunney (Teresa
Lisbon)
Tim Kang (Kimball Cho)
Owain Yeoman (Wayne
Rigsby)
Amanda Righetti (Grace
Van Pelt)
WRITTEN BY: Jordan
Harper
DIRECTED BY: Elodie
Keene
Source: CBS

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This is why I think Michael Kirkland is Red John:
 
Since they kill Bob Kirkland and leave us with his twin-brother story, there has to be a reason why, besides giving Bob a reason to hunt Red John (Not knowing it's his brother). If Bob Kirkland has hunted Red John for so long, why wouldn't Red John just kill him earlier?

I think this next episode will give a final explanation to the list. 

The remaining 5 suspects: 

Bret Stiles (leader of visualize/possible tyger-tyger)
Reede Smith (tyger-tyger)
Sheriff McCallister (old fart)
Ray Haffner (visualize/possible tyger-tyger)
Gale Bertram (possible tyger-tyger)

Jane has them at gun point, which means none of them are going anywhere, and he will see their shoulders. Nothing else would make sense. It’s the only card he’s dealt. 

Red John luring them there, to kill off the Tyger-Tyger crew and/or people from visualize, which means Red John is either Bret Partridge or Michael Kirkland. Figuring Jane would check if Partridge really was dead, it has to be Michael, which is why they gave us his twin story.  The tattoo could be anything. Ray Haffner said he had other clients after leaving the hotel, which means he could have hired the blond to spy on CBS and then kill her. He might have the tattoo, but that doesn’t mean he’s Red John. Would Red John really need to hire the blond to bug the office, when we know he's more resourceful than that? 

This makes sence when you think about the Tyger-Tyger guys killing Michael’s brother. An explosion is a good revenge for Red John (Michael).... Who knows, maybe Jane gets a phone-call to get the hell out of there before it blows, leaving all 7 suspects dead. 

This technically means he was on the list as Bruno Heller said, but really only the face matched. 
The leverage part could incline that Jane knows. Knows that the tattoo doesn't belong to Red John, but one of the suspects are so important to Red John, that he wants Jane to kill him because he may know his identity. That is why he said he had his leverage, not that he knew who Red John was. 

Either way, the tattoo could mean nothing even if Michael isn't Red John. Could just be an attempt to make Jane kill someone.

I still hope Bruno Heller lied, and Cho reveals himself as Red John!

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Season 1 will provide the big clue to the identity of Red John. Its hard to predict who he is, they seem to be rushing the series, why couldnt they have revealed major things over the course of the show rather than S6 E1-4 lol.
Not sure if reveal will be obvious like most shows or a work of genius, the show seems to fluctuate between the two. RJ choices for writers....
Easy choice; Partridge
Medium Choice: Stiles/CBI Ron/Mashburn
Hard Choice: Someone within the core cbi team/Ellis Mars/Ardiles
Is RJ able to hypnotise people that's how he kills victims who may be physically stronger than him?? Hope Jane batters him to a pulp, gets a few questions answered, sweet revenge! Jane will go on the run to an island after killing RJ. This is sadly the final season it was said a year ago in an interview. Jane will kill RJ, break Tyger Tyger, get with Lisbon before episode 22 END. Shame though but i don't see what they could focus on after the things i mentioned, btw Heller has moved onto Gotham a sign that his focus lies elsewhere.

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Hello everyone,

I don't know who Red John is but maybe  I could Help.

So we just learned that Red John has a 3 dots tattoo. I think this clue given by Bruno Heller is not for Patrick Jane, but for us, the internet community.

Three dots is a common tattoo in the latino knowledge, it means "My crazy life" or "Mi vida loca".

"Mi vida loca" is the title of a movie directed by Allison Anders.

Turns out this woman has also directed two  very important episodes of The mentalist : 

- The first one
- "The red barn" (S05E13), where Patrick Jane makes a concrete connection between Red John and the "Visualize" Cult. We can also this the first smiley of Red John in that episode.

I think the answer is in both episodes. 

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