I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Everything is self-explanatory:

Bruno Heller had no fucking idea who Red John was and why and how Red John did everything he did. Simple.

Yeap the episode sucked big time and fans were duped by the idiot, Heller. Because yes it's idiotic to make a series with an archenemy that has made Patrick Jane who he is, and have no backstory to this whatsoever. Even more idiotic were Heller's comments on how the story would unfold and everything would fall into pieces without any polar bears missing explanation. Indeed we had killer pigeons, stupid twin theories and tyger tyger poems instead of polar bears. Seems the same shit to me.

And i certainly don't find amusing what Heller said about the backstory having no excitement but would make for good internet fodder for fans. Fans didn't watch 'Red John' to have exciting fun with the FBI's silly chase, fans wanted closure for a story which began from episode 1. And got ABSOLUTELY nothing.

How to kill a serial killer:

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I liked the ending and think it makes a lot of sense.  

But I'm puzzled by something...  Possibly another Red Herring...

The lady sitting at the back of the church in The Great Red Dragon when Jane tapes the gun beneath the pew looks pretty familiar...  Looks just like the nun with a knife who was on Red John's side...  She also sounded like she was from Visualize...  (i.e., her tone and choice of words.)


Was she on Tom's side?  If it was her in the Church, did she see Jane put the gun there?  Why be there in the first place?  If she did see Jane put the gun there, is Red John using Tom?  Is she the "cutter-upper"?  I mean, the first episode Tom's in is about 2 sociopaths...  

Also, why didn't she have a gun?  She wasn't that great a shot with a knife...  But Jane and that candle, oh boy...  I think Jane bashing her in the skull made-up for an almost religious moment with Jane kneeling in the last episode...  And of course, he was putting the gun there.

Anyways, I liked the ending.  Think the Sheriff fits very well.  I don't think the pigeon play was far-fetched either, it was actually pretty poetic.

Just my thoughts!  No offense intended! 

Someone mentioned on this site yesterday to create a group where we can kind of write our own "Fan Fiction" type ending to the Red John story.

Please email me at Jake.Muso@gmail.com

I am very interested at taking part in this.

Someone mentioned on this site yesterday to create a group where we can kind of write our own "Fan Fiction" type ending to the Red John story.

Please email me at Jake.Muso@gmail.com

I am very interested at taking part in this.

At this point I'm not even going to bother saying I'm disappointed...but what I am going to say is HOW IS NO ONE DISCUSSING THE STRANGEST PART OF THE WHOLE EPISODE...

Bertram cals patrick and says "I don't have to use a creepy voice, you know who this is." Then says, " you've got it all wrong, I'm not red john." Then McCallister says, "he didn't even know I was red john."

How in the hell did bertram know about the creepy voice if he wasn't red john and was never around to hear the voice and didn't know mccallister was RJ?

And if no one knew mccallister was in charge or that he was red john why did cordero shoot bertram for mccallister after doing everything to make sure bertram was safe? How the hell did cordero become so important? That whole scene, including the hidden bird was absolute horse shit and some of the most illogical crap I've ever seen on tv.

Didn't all of you pay attention? Red John is not dead. He was standing beside the dino as Patrick ran off at the very end. The sheriff never said he was RJ, he only said he was the head of the Blake Association. He never even admitted to killing Patricks family. He only blinked about it to save his life. Plus the real RJ would never be so weak. Did you ever see Bundy or Dahmer cry in court. So everyone relax, we have not seen the last of RJ, unless the show gets cancelled.