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I am again not here to accuse but rather to add new evidence I have not seen anyone mention here before. It is with regards to the first episode of season 6.

Bruno Heller mentioned that in the last sequence there is a big clue, and lots have mentioned the birds and the writing on the walls. The sequence begins with Teresa getting a call saying that someone is in distress and she sees that the address is the same as the one where Partridge is.

So I took a closer look at the little screen showing all the GPS trackers and I see the following:

K, S1, S2, B, P, M, and and H. So from this we can deduce the following:
K = Kirkland
S1 and S2 = Smith and Stiles
B = Bertram
M = McAllister
P = Partridge 
H = Haffner

Also we can safely say that Red John is DEFINITELY in that house because he calls Patrick Jane and we hear the 'Red John Voice'.

Now, I looked at the locations of all the other GPS trackers. I know this does not really mean much as Red John would probably be smart enough not to take his phone with him. But this should actually still give us some sort of clue as to where the suspects are supposed to be while the events are taking place. 

Haffner, McAllister and either Smith or Stiles shows on the tracker as "IN TRANSIT" so they are on the move while Red John is in the house. I can't really see Red John giving his phone to someone to drive around with so lets assume that these guys are out. I'm not sure which 'S' this is, but the screen says S2 in transit so I'll assume it's alphabetic and say it's Stiles.

The location where Partridge is and where the call directs Lisbon is 5570 West Huron, Sacramento CA. So here is a list of where the other 3 suspects are:
B - Bertram, 725 Delta Street Sacramento CA, 13 minutes from the scene.
S1 - Smith (?), 862 Laurel Street, San Francisco CA, 1 hour 37 minutes from the scene.
K - Kirkland, 352 Grant Rd, Los Angeles CA. 5 Hours 39 minutes from the scene.

All the above I did through google maps.

Kirkland is both too far and too dead to be involved here.

Now if we go further and compare how far all of the suspects that are "IN TRANSIT" are from the scene, we see H (Haffner) and S2 (Stiles/Smith) are closer than S1, meaning they are less than an hour from the scene by comparison. Also, we see that McAllister is almost equally as far away as S1. 

But as I said, why would RJ's phone be moving while he is in a house committing a murder? 

This leaves us with Bertram, Partridge and either Smith, or Stiles being closest to the scene.

As I said you guys can use this info if you want, I'm not accusing anyone. Just providing some new intel.

Thank you for reading.

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Haffner has an "anihilating rage" says Patrick. On Patrick's old client list in season one, there's someone called Amy Haffner (someone who works on the show!). Could there be a connection?  

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Haffner And PJ getting out of the elevator.

RH puts his hand on PJ's shoulder and said

here's a switch for you, there's a come up and it's heading your way.

what did he mean by that?

a "come up" means a result or an issue or revelation

he knew that PJ will know something more about RJ the three dot tattoo.


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I have a theory which is somewhat left-of-field, but I think it is plausible. The gist of it is that no single person is Red John, but, rather, it/he is a group of people. Some of the justifications for this are as follows:

1.  Red John has access to multiple law enforcement departments. The most simple explanation for this is that different people step in when different departments are concerned.
2.  Red John seems to be brilliant in multiple disciplines, most notably computer science. 
3.  His individual features have never been corroborated by another person. Given, there are similarities between descriptions, but the people in the final list are also very similar.
4.  The Tyger Tyger conspiracy clearly involves multiple people.
5.  All of the final list of seven could so easily fit the bill, despite some being more appropriate than others.
6.  If multiple people commit the Red John murders, and are in one sense Red John, then this would leave open the possibility that there is another player, not on the list, and thus not expected by any viewers. Therefore. shock value would be increased.
7.  While many people expressly and fervently disavow the notion that anyone on the CBS team could be involved, it is suggested that any one of them could play some part (Cho - strong, silent and keeps his distance from the team (doesn't fit the bill in my opinion); Rigsby - comes across as a bumbling idiot, but this could be an act (possibility); Van Pelt - seems very intelligent, good with computers, more distant than Rigsby, but seems to have an intriguing fascination with Jane (a definite possibility)).
8.  Multiple people would more easily explain how Red John could have deduced the list of seven.

There may be more reasons why I think this, but I have just typed this off the top of my head. The main point is that it is not outside of the realm of possibility that this theory is correct, which would be more surprising.

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my advice, don't expect to much from the next episode. 

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Once they realise that Red John's full name is Red Johnathan, they can sit back and have a laugh.

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It's simple. the one who killed that women that bugged the cbi is not red john.

red john is not messy. he doesn't need somebody to do his works for him. red john knows that he is among jane list so he could easily come to cbi and bug it and even if something goes wrong he is already on the list and he could com with any excuse assuming that he doesn't has an insider within lisbon team already. this is more simple than "hiring" someone.

therefor, whoever sent and killed that women is either a tyger or visualize member as simple as that.

the leverage that jane talked about is real enough. why? because by knowing the killer identity he gets to either tyger or visualize group and then red john because red jone is connected to both groups in his early life (visualize) or current (tyger) even though it might mean that he is a member or was one.


my thought so far:
1. red john killed partridge to send a message to jane. partridge is a tyger member and a disposable one.
2. kirkland has a twin but that twin is not red john and works for tyger group.
3. bertram, mcallister and smith are tyger members.
4. stiles knows red john and has a black dot in his history.
5. the killer that killed that women is not red john. but, he is a threat to red john.
6. haffner in a way is "doing somthing good". knows about tyger and is working to destroy it. tyger knows all about him and kept him silent by someway. he joined visualize to get his back coverd. visualize knows all about him.
7. visualize and tyger are enemies. the one thing they share together is RED JOHN.

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