Who is Red John?

Theory #11385 • by melo

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Bob Kirkland

Bob Kirkland
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first, sorry to be posting so much. i'm trying to round out a theory, and it is much easier to do in parts. So far, I have:Stiles reactions (both of them) imply 1 of 2 things: McCallister is RJ for sure and Stiles protects him OR no one in that house is RJ. There are ZERO other options based on how stiles reacted first with shock, secondly by begging Patrick to look at the other tattoos.possible RJ's: Partridge, Kirkland, Stiles or someone not on listNext...Partridge was killed by RJ. Heller says RJ chose to kill Partridge. So, if we take that on its face value, He IS DEAD. Why is he dead. He is part of tyger, tyger. Helped stage RJ killings. RJ was insulted he was on the list. I believe 100% that when Partridge said, "red john has been laying low for years" that he was being truthful bc he knew he was the one who staged RJ killings (sometimes making mistakes, maybe intentionally).possible RJ's: Stiles, Haffner, Kirkland, Smith, Bertram, McCallisterRosalind's description is 100% accurate. Let me explain why her account, more than anyone else's, is true. We know for a fact RJ killed the first time 25 years ago at the visualize barn. we know for a fact that even before Patrick's family was killed Rosalind was spending time with Roy and his friend. There is a very old Red John smiley face in her house. We know his friend went to prison, and had been long time friends with RJ from the beginning. So much so that his son had a loyalty to RJ and tried to help capture/kill RJ. Thus, the person Rosalind describes up to 20 years ago, but at least 15, was in fact red john. at that time Rosalind would have been quite young and RJ should have been 30-35, meaning ANY of the characters could be RJ. smith could have been thinner. Bertram, stiles, and mccallister could have had more hair. the older guys could have had better posture. In other words, Rosalind's description seems like it should help, but it doesn't. Possible RJ's: all of themThe list is specific and contains people dangerous to RJ. 7 suspects. 6 of them with the potential to damage RJ. 4 members of tyger, tyger. 1 man who is hunting him visciously, Kirkland. 1 man who knows EXACTLY who he is, Stiles. Possible RJ's: Haffner or someone not on the listRJ is NOT part of tyger, tyger. I'm not sure why people are still arguing this. It is clear that in season 2 he is trying to lead Patrick to tyger, tyger by quoting the whole poem, thus directing him at Bertram. It should be made even more clear that he gave a list of people who are in tyger, tyger, and started by killing Partridge. I believe RJ has been trying to get Patrick to get rid of tyger, tyger since the mall scene with Timothy Carter.Possible RJ: Stiles, Haffner, Kirkland, or someone not on the listRJ has not committed ANY murders between Jane's family and Eileen. For various reasons, mainly to keep Patrick at the CBI and cover up tyger, tyger crimes, TT has staged RJ killings over the years. This covers up their wrong doings and keeps Patrick at the cbi closing cases. What we learn about RJ in the beginning is that he I meticulous, makes few if any mistakes, and his killings are almost always the exact same MO. I believe he killed Patrick's family. I believe he killed Eilleen. I believe he killed Sophie Miller and Brett Partridge. I believe he MAY have killed Lorelei. That's it, and they were all women, until Brett (bc he had to kill partridge), they were all killed using RJ's MO. Throat slash (or head cut off). Every other supposed RJ killing was staged by Partridge for TT. This is furthered by Partridge "Rj has been laying low for years." A 100% true statement, Partridge knows this, bc he has staged killings.Possible RJ's: Stiles, Haffner, Kirkland or someone not on the listRJ did not bug the cbi office. Neither did visualize. Someone with 3 dots killed the PI, another murder they hoped to pin on RJ. That means that TT bugged the pit where Jane's team works. Follow me on this. That means NO ONE on Jane's team is with TT. Since Rj is NOT with TT, that means someone on Jane's team DEFINITELY GIVES INFO to RJ, whether they are bugged or working for RJ is unknown to me.possible RJ's: KirklandAs you can see, there are only 2 possibilities that are NOT eliminated. BOB KIRKLAND or SOMEONE NOT ON THE LIST.This leaves us with an interesting list of questions...1.) We have to assume 1 Kirkland is absolutely dead, Bob or Michael...but which one? The fact that he was killed by tyger, tyger after asking about the group makes me even more curious.2.) who on the cbi team is working for RJ? janes comments to Lisbon about Kirkland imply her. Van Pelt's red hair, computer skills and disdain for Jane suggest her. one of them is either bugged or passing info to RJ. 3.) If it is not one or both kirklands, which character not on the list would pass all of those tests?
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