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The Mentalist—Walter Mashburn is Red John "The Underlying Idea" part 2 

final video and more clues from a particular episode that has a huge amount of clues.......

TVGuide: 

Any scoop on The Mentalist? Is Jane really going back to jail? — Elizabeth
ADAM: Get ready for another — albeit less severe — time jump. The next episode skips ahead three months, and Jane has indeed spent the intervening period in detention. (And Lisbon's been writing him letters! Aw...) However, the always wily Jane already has a plan to get out. Let's just say that some pieces of the Red John puzzle from earlier this season may be Jane's saving grace.

From what TVGuide says, it seems like Jane will get out of his FBI problems by explaining at least something from the Red John episode.  Lol, maybe he'll confess to Lisbon that he faked RJ's death and the two years in South America were an elaborate con to really fool RJ.  

So very, very unlikely . . . 

Would any of us be able to forgive Heller for messing with us like this even if he did manage to have a brilliant RJ reveal at the end of the season?  Green: yes ; Red: no

http://youtu.be/aGQ1e5YE68A


The Mentalist—Walter Mashburn is Red John "The Underlying Idea" part 2 

final video and more clues from a particular episode that has a huge amount of clues.......

http://youtu.be/aGQ1e5YE68A


The Mentalist—Walter Mashburn is Red John "The Underlying Idea" part 2 

final video and more clues from a particular episode that has a huge amount of clues.......

While I agree with many that the reveal episode (6:08) was something of an anti-climax, with probably the least interesting suspect turning out to be RJ, it really was time to wind up the RJ storyline.
And to all those who are disgracefully and offensively lambasting Bruno Heller and crew on this site, sit back and think for a minute. They were skilful enough to develop a complicated storyline that lasted more than five years. But I can think of several books, TV series and movies that built up a story quite brilliantly, so much intrigue and plot development, but then failed to deliver on the ending. It seems the Mentalist Red John story is no different. But give BH some credit. He may yet surprise all of us.
I doubt we have seen the last of Visualize (or even Brett Stiles - Malcolm McDowell is such a good actor!).
But I actually thought the Mexican episode ("two years later") was fascinating. Have a little faith people. The thought of Jane working with the FBI has a lot of potential. You all waited more than five years for RJ to be uncovered. You can wait a little bit more for a good show and great characters to be re-directed.

I didn't even watch the new episode last night.  I figured since Heller gave the middle finger to all hard core fans with the rushed and contradicting RJ finale, I strongly feel obliged to return the courtesy.

So why am I still posting on this site?  I guess it's a form of mourning my once favorite show that I once thought was a carefully crafted Moriarty/Holmes story, but turned out to be a dog's breakfast or random clues that meant nothing in the end.

Heller publicly admitted he had no idea who Red John was going to be until Season 4 and it clearly showed when RJ was finally revealed.

Adding insult to injury, Simon Baker admitted to voicing Red John at the end of season 4, playing the masked Red John at the end of season 2 and being lukewarm to the actual RJ reveal.

Oh well, not Baker's fault, based on his interviews, he obviously didn't like the way things turned out either.

Whatever direction the show takes now I already know it's going to be random and a desperate clutching at straws to maintain/boost ratings for syndication.

Meh ... walking the dog is better for me anyway.

I don't care that writing out these theories has become ridiculous because the probability that Heller would ever risk losing his audience by airing such a terrible episode is so low.

I just noticed that during the clip of Jane meeting Kim Swallow, she is reading Daughter of Time.  That book involves a researcher deciding that Richard III (II?) is not the terrible murderer that everyone thought he was.  He decides that history believes Richard to be such a terrible guy because the Tudors framed him.

Now for anyone left on this theory board, this suggests that McAllister is not RJ and that he was actually framed by Jane or RJ.

Is it possible for the writers to accidentally fill the episodes with clues that suggest that first the list was fake and second that RJ is not dead?  Are they just having fun screwing with us?  Or is there a purpose to everything they've done?

The list of names in Jane's notebook in Black Cherry that Lisbon never sees - suggested that Jane had a plan and secrets kept from both the audience and Lisbon which is actually what we've come to expect from him.

The show suddenly losing it's value for life by killing off Haffner and Stiles without showing any fallout and then Jane providing an explanation for how someone could fake their death in an explosion.

The inclusion of a fake list for Kirkland - could be brilliant foreshadowing or the writers screwing with us.

Heller's brilliant season finales in the past don't add up with the RJ episode we just watched.

Jane's lack of a brilliant scheme, RJ's dramatic change in MO, the lack of explanations, etc.

On one hand, everything points to the show crashing, dying, and turning into a soap opera.  It's so incredibly unlikely that Heller would con us for eight episodes and then air a ridiculous RJ episode and risk losing a large chunk of his audience.  But the other hand seems just as unlikely because when Heller has been so brilliant in the past, why would he ever write an episode like Red John.  An episode that got leaked, that everyone thought was fake, that left everyone angry and with no explanations and far too many inconsistencies.  To me this seems so unlikely that it becomes a balancing act of which side is more unlikely.  Heller coning us or Heller screwing us.  

If Heller did really get bored then why didn't the other writers object, the actors, the filmers, the CBS, etc?  Is it actually possible to write such a terrible episode without trying?  The Red John episode had so much potential with how RJ was caught, what Jane and RJ talked about, Lisbon's role in the meeting and her confrontation with RJ, RJ's last murders, RJ's backstory, etc.  RJ is not just a serial killer, he's the darkness in Jane.  RJ is supposed to be Jane's opposite mirror image.  His characterization is supposed to characterize Jane.  McAllister was a flat RJ and that reveal made Jane more one-dimensional.  The RJ episodes have been loved because we see more of Jane's inner self.  Now we're left to wonder why Jane bothered to chase RJ and why did it take him so long to catch RJ?  

I could draw a list out of the parallels between Jane and RJ.  I could map out the RJ characterization throughout the seasons.  I've written out theories that incorporate every clue we've been given.  I've analyzed the color symbolism and literary devices used in the show.  All of that would suggest that Jane's con hasn't been revealed yet and RJ is still alive and not McAllister.

Then you look at safe tv advertising/promotion and the recent statements Heller has made and everything looks like he just got bored and decided to wrap up the storyline as quickly as possible.

And that leaves me unable to decide if I should keep hoping or give up.  If it is still part of a con, then it might be revealed tonight with a major hint that Jane is up to something.  Most people assume that the RJ storyline is over so the hint can be more obvious because most people will ignore it.  And if the popular suspects start returning in these next few episodes . . . if we see Walter Mashburn in the next five episodes . . . 

It's likely that my slight hopes are wrong but hopefully tonight's episode will suggest one way or another whether I should keep hoping.