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Virgil Minelli

Virgil Minelli
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This is up there with the worst endings in TV history. It's like the writers sat down with 7 pictures of the suspects and just pulled one at random. There is no story in this episode. Bruno Heller was telling the truth, Red John is just a regular guy. No charisma, no smart talk, no explanation what made him to become Red John, no connections to anything in past episodes, no nothing, just a guy who is killed by Jane and that's it.

You could actually replace Red John by any character who was ever for more than 10 seconds on the show and there was nothing that needed to be changed in the episode, except replacing the Red John actor. Everyone would fit. It was completely generic.

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I am a media bloke also

S6E8
it was blinding

will I tell you?

nope

i really am a press guy

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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posted Minelli theories 2 weeks back, reposting them. as now ppl are
getting rid of lame ideas finally. and the guy in church from back is
likely a thin minelli - balding etc.

ok guys, first of all,
kudos to heller for creatng such a marveland to baker for such a lively
and impeccable portrayal of jane. now to business here.

  
so what do you think PJ is? a wannabee kid detective who would wait for
the clues in a treasure hunt to fetch the biggest motive of his life?
and what would the creator of the show think? they make sure his plan is
revealed only in teh end of even the pettiest of his tricks and this is
the magnum opus of his life.....and 4
people other than him know
it.....wow......i dont buy it and it makes for a boring chase as well i
think.  also, you think rj being rj, is still going to be lured by pj
into all these silly tricks..like showing his 3 dots to a person right
when the heat is on and that person has had a contact with cbi..and do
you think pj thinks so lowly of rj tht he will commit such rookie
mistakes which btw he dint commit when he was a rookie

      so
jane is playing the big strategy in this masterful chess game to trap
the king..the biggest move he has made imo to date is the list of fake
rj suspects,
not the one he gave to kirkland (or planted) but the one he showed to
lisbon......i think he requested lorelei (maybe) to shoot that video tape for him
when they were together and he put those 7 names there just to confuse
everyone
around him..and he promptly destroyed the dvd which is suspicious...so i
think he is just confusing everyone else and even rj if he is too
active in bugging his space..and eventually he would say this is the
man i knew from before was rj and just wanted to trap him as he was so clever......and my vote is on Virgil Minneli..
reasons

1- minelli has been brought twice in the show after resigning and both the
times they meant something (at least the santa episode). why bring a
busy artist to work when thr cud have been 10 ways pj cud have got that
list..and in tht episode minelli said and i quote "thanks for opening my
eyes to some ugly truths i had been avoiding like being  fish killer".....obviously he needed to resume killing people as rj......much with the vacations.....also, "you're nuts my freind".

2- minelli went on vacation just before the mexico killing. aybe then it was a red
herring as it was the first season but en the writers knew they'd get  more seasons they'd say "why not use that bit when its faded from memory'

3-  they shook hands in episode 100 flashback.

4- he is well connected and powerful and has a charismatic personality and is also a renowned actor. now come on u dnt want rj to be played by some dummy actor..

5-  once you warm up to this theory, u'd read mcuh between the minelli lines.

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In Season 1 Episode 23, Rosalind Harker describes Red John as:
Just under 6 feet
Not muscular, not soft
Short straight hair
Gentle voice
Rough strong hands
Smelt of pine and nails
Likes classical - Bach
Smoked a lot

As far as I know, none of the people on Jane's list smoked, except for possibly Bertram as he had a cigarette lighter in his deposit room. Minelli was hypnotized by Jane to stop smoking which indicates he had a smoking problem beforehand. Rosalind also says he was trying to stop, hence eventually seeking Jane's help to quit.

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posted Minelli theories 2 weeks back, reposting them. as now ppl are getting rid of lame ideas finally. and the guy in church from back is likely a thin minelli's - balding etc.

ok guys, first of all, kudos to heller for creatng such a marveland to baker for such a lively and impeccable portrayal of jane. now to business here.

   so what do you think PJ is? a wannabee kid detective who would wait for the clues in a treasure hunt to fetch the biggest motive of his life? and what would yhe creator of the show think? they make sure his plan is revealed only in teh end of even the pettiest of his tricks and this is the magnum opus of his life.....and 4
people other than him know it.....wow......i dont buy it and it makes for a boring chase as well i think.  also, you think rj being rj, is still going to be lured by pj into all these silly tricks..like showing his 3 dots to a person right when the heat is on and that person has had a contact with cbi..and do you think pj thinks so lowly of rj tht he will commit such rookie mistakes which btw he dint commit when he was a rookie

      so jane is playing the big strategy in this masterful chess game to trap the king..the biggest move he has made imo to date is the list of fake rj suspects,
not the one he gave to kirkland (or planted) but the one he showed to
lisbon......i think he requested lorelei (mybe) to shoot that vide tape for him
when they were together and he put those 7 names there just to confuse
everyone around him..and he promptly destroyed the dvd which is suspicious...so i think he is just confusing everyone else and even rj if he is too active ion bugging his space..and eventually he would say this is the man i knew from before was rj and just wanted to trap him as



he was so clever......and my vote is on Virgil Minneli..
reasons

1- 

minelli has been brought twice in the show after resigning and both the

times they meant something (at least the santa episode). why bring a

busy artist to work when thr cud have been 10 ways pj cud have got that

list..and in tht episode minelli said and i quote "thanks for opening my

eyes to some ugly truths i had been avoiding like being  fish

killer".....obviously he needed to resume killing people as rj......much

with the vacations.....also, "you're nuts my freind".

2- minelli

went on vacation just before the mexico killing. aybe then it was a red

herring as it was the first season but en the writers knew they'd get

more seasons they'd say "why not use that bit when its faded from

memory'

3-  they shook hands in episode 100 flashback.

4- 

he is well connected and powerful and has a charismatic personality and

is also a renowned actor. now comeone u dnt want rj to be played by

some dummy actor..

5-  once you warm up to this theory, u'd read mcuh between the minelli lines..

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Personally, I don't think it is anyone on the list. The clue I think in episode one at the end wasn't what anyone did but rather the location/setting of what took place.  Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p43ysF_NFI8 Patrick and Minelli talk about a murder victim who was in an "abandoned house" (just like where Partridge was killed) Red John could have been trying to jog Patrick's brain about that particular conversation in season 6. The voices of Minelli and Bosco sound like they could be Red John with a tad bit of inflection on their part. Comparing body type and hair to the Red John Promo vid for the next episode I'd say it's more like Minelli. Also, Minelli was there from the beginning.  The pigeons....well, could mean "message" as in messenger pigeon.  This was the message Minelli was trying to send to Patrick.

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