i think Red John isn't in the list  .. because no one in the list close to Brett Partridge when Teresa looks at the map in S06E01 .. http://goo.gl/RzPD7P

RJ is not on the list. If eh is, he's not one of the fIve remaining suspects ;)

Just some information may not be useful but interesting. All about pigeons which lead me to something else, keep reading it gets interesting.

GENERAL PIGEON INFO: Symboism of Pigeons: "Finding one many pigeons, he will win according to their number of diligent and useful slaves, - these are young pigeons, he will acquire young slaves under age who are from strong shape."
There is a pigeon called a dragoon, They had originally been called the Dragon but this changed over time maybe because of the birds more upright posture and gentlemen were starting to keep them. Dragoons were far more likely to be used in flying matches or races than the more valuable Carrier which no longer had to live up to its name.
Rock doves are common birds in cities and town but, they can also be found on fields and rocky cliffs.They may gather in large flocks in urban parks where people feed them. They seem to prefer open feeding areas that permit a speedy getaway if a threat is detected.

One of the richest and most famous families in the world amassed its wealth, certainly in part, as a result of exploiting the pigeon. In the early 1800s the Rothschild family set up a network of pigeon lofts throughout Europe and used homing pigeons to carry information between its financial houses. This method proved to be quicker and more efficient than any other means of communication available at the time. The speed of the service and the ability to send and receive information ahead of the competition helped the Rothschild family amass a fortune, which still exists today.
http://www.pigeoncontrolresourcecentre.org/html/amazing-pigeon-facts.html#biblical

This lead me to ROTHSCHILD AND OTHER RED THINGS http://www.tribwatch.com/redshield.htm read below

It is common opinion that the House of Rothschild rules the world invisibly today, and has done so for two centuries, by creating (i.e. paying off) its own puppets to work on its behalf in the visible world...on many fronts but especially in politics, commerce, technology, education and media outlets. The first Rothschild originated in a part of Germany where rulers were "illuminated" with the so-called "Age of Enlightenment" brought on by Rosicrucians...and by "first" I mean that "Rothschild" was not the true family name; internet websites say that it was "Bauer," meaning "farmer." The Enlightenment has given the world modern democratic politics, the industrial revolution, highly-advanced science and technology, overwhelming knowledge, awesome communication possibilities, but all topped off with grief, plagues, horrors, evil and certain self-destruction because the Creator has either been eradicated from mainstream life, or pushed into corners of society and there degraded into a variety of persons or "somethings" that He is not.Mayer Bauer changed the name to "Rothschild" (meaning "red shield") for a reason not generally known. Yes, he had hung a red-shield sign/symbol above the door of his shop while still a poor/common family man, but what did it mean? Apparently, the protection and/or advancement of something red...and I don't think it had anything to do with red potatoes. Probably a red people. It just so happens that he was an Ashkenazi Jew, and that Ashkenaz was a region in Magog where the so-called "red Jews" of Khazaria had ruled an empire on the north shores of the Black and Caspian seas. Several voices are now proclaiming that the Rothschilds, and most other Ashkenazi Jews, are descended from the Khazars.While the Jews of Khazaria had been the small minority among both Christian and Muslim citizens, they ruled the empire absolutely; it had been the law of the land that only Jews could rule! There were two kings, an invisible one called a "khagan," and a visible one called a "beg." Interesting, isn't it, that the invisible Rothschilds are now a few Jews ruling the world.


That very first line sounds like RedJohn to me. Anwway I read somewhere that the pigeon may be a symbol that Red John is feeding his minions which might mean he is grooming one of them..for what I don't know. A take over maybe. 

Hi :)

maybe we can see RJ in 2x08 after minelli talk to the medias, there is a long car at the enter of the cbi and a man with sunglass is walking to see minelli.

Please guys I really don't want to be spoiled about who RJ is with the cast list. I want to guess or find out by watching. Please stop posting the cast list for the show it's probably bogus  ...Kirkland is probably going to be in it anyway because of his job and two that's wrote by normal people.

Either way I don't want to stop coming on here with theories or reading theories and would appreciate if you wouldn't post such things

Come on guys. I can't believe that the REAL Red John is actually one of these 5 fools.

Bertram, Smith, & McAllister having a huddle in the office discussing what Jane knows?  RJ doesn't HAVE huddles, he makes his own decisions, cause he's the smartest guy in the room. RJ doesn't need information, and if he did, he sure hope wouldn't send some bullshit PI to plant an obvious bug in the CBI. and Smith with that "tiger tiger" bullshit to the guard in the van???  Please, that was ridiculous.

Haffner?  Come on, the guy was practically comical in last weeks episode.  Doesn't seem to fit the RJ personality.

Kirkland got shot, and we all saw it, so HE'S DEAD.  The twin brother theory is good, but stupid cause it has to be someone that was there since the BEGINNING.

Partridge is the only one that fits the RJ persona. Calm, but you can tell he's got a little bit of crazy in there, and i know, i know, HES DEAD, but did we really even see him die or get dismembered??

...and Stiles????  for God's sake the guy is like 400 years old and runs a cult.


Idk who the hell Red John really is, but he BETTER NOT BE any of these 5 remaining people, cause that would really fucking suck.

Thanks.  Love the show by the way.

The list troubles me. Red John troubles me. I'm not sure I understand why they have the list and why they are having the characters that could play Red John really well and leave us like "wow that's a good red john", DIE.  Which one is the most important,  the fact we couldn't guess who RJ was or the fact that we love the Red John that they create? I mean right now we still don't know for certain who he is. I mean none of us, we all have equally valid choices. So leaving Partridge in wasn't going to change anything with us. I would have been equally satisfied and would have guessed that he wasn't red John. I hope the actor they have chosen,  can transform into Red John at the drop of a hat and is really good at playing him because any thing short of a good performance is going to sink the show for me anyway.  Stiles is the only one that could do a show stopping performance? The rest I'm not sure? I could be wrong, they might be brilliant but they really need to be.

Also the descriptions, he has to match the descriptions otherwise what was the point of following the clues for the show at all? They would mean nothing at all. 

This brings me back to the whole lot of them being Red John. Its more likely to explain everything that has happened without using up too much air time. The group thing explains everything without having to explain anything and it also means that P.J will be hunting down the escapees from the explosion for the remainder of the season explains why the season doesn't finish with the killing of Red John.