Here is my question...do we really know anything?

Yeah, TV Guide kind of spoiled some things. Heller let some things out. But overall, is there really a legit guess? I tell you where I'm coming from

1) One of the constant clues regards Rosalind Harker and her knowing his face, voice, etc. But we are going on the word of a blind woman...is she blind?...that could be part of a conspiracy, a cover up or even Red John. We are all chasing this under 6 ft guy guy with short, straight hair because SHE said so. Why trust her?

2) The handshake. We don't know with certainty if the handshake was shown on TV, from early in the seasons, etc. We do know that Lorelei saw it. But here is my rub with that. Tyger/Tyger is a group who may or may not be under Red John. How do we know who she saw shake hands with PJ was Red John? Maybe that person...like Hafner might..worked for RJ but there have been so many associates, etc of RJ she might have been as out of the loop as anyone.

So overall, I guess we have it narrowed down but I think the answer of who could be anything because none of the clues came to as as fact, only as hints from people we may/may not have reason to trust on the show.

*TV Guide SPOILERS* - POST Red John


Spoilers from the TV Guide article via reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheMentalist/comments/1q03lx/tv_guide_has_spoilers_big_ones/

ALSO, actual scans from the TV Guide article:
http://imgur.com/VrARGRe

http://imgur.com/AuZHoQp

I love this show, but this is an odd direction for them... Please discuss.  Also, NONE of theresa's CBI team is Red John. Sorry

Just realized something. We've discussed previously the 'pigeon clues' that appear in Episodes 1-3 of this Season.
1: in the house
2: in the park
3: in the bell tower

(For whatever it's worth, there are also birds chirping in E03 when McAllister doesn't want to look at the view or go up the ladder.)

But then in Episodes 4-6, we have had coffee clues.
4: in the park (Kirkland & Smith)
5: in the park (Cho & PI)
6: Smith (garage) & Haffner (cafe)

I'm assuming these are bread crumbs from the writers to the fans, but I can't figure out what they mean. My best guess is that they're tied to RJ, some pigeon connection & also the way he likes his coffee.

Thoughts?

Not a theory, just some weird questions about the last episode.

Stiles received the note after the team debrief, cooper, reede and McAllister meeting. So one of them can be suspected to be the author of the note.

After the note scene, Haffner met Lisbon , in a public place, so maybe Lisbon is afraid somehow of Haffner.

After the visit in bertram's office, lisbon did a real weird and disappointed face, why ?

When Patrick Jane told everyone in the room that one of them is Red John because of the tatoo, Bertram take a interesting look on his right as if He is thinking about it.

Hi Guys its confirmed by the executive producer on the mentalist that red John is on that list and their not tricks involved check this out http://cartermatt.com/94870/the-mentalist-season-6-spoilers-dont-expect-any-sort-of-red-john-tricker....

Thanks 

Finally i figured out who Red John is!

Red John is US President, Barack Obama.

1. First, the smiley. It looks identical with Obama smile.

2. Second, he killed because he was enourmously depressed with his workload as US president. Therefore, he need some fun and gain some ecstacy.

3. Bertram, Smith, Mc Allister, and Partridge were Obama associates. They cleaned up the mess make by RJ. RJ killed Partridge because RJ worried he will revealed to Mr. Jane his true identity. So was Kirkland.

4. Obama dont like to be humiliated. He liked Jane because he was a con man. He was a perfect candidates for the next Secretary General of White House.

5. He hunts Hightower because she rejected his love during college. They studied together in Hawaii before.

6. Obama spare Lisbon because she is hot and knows that Jane attracted to her. He killed Sophie, Miss Frye and Lorelei because he thinks all of them didnt fit Jane. Instead, all of them has fallen love to Jane. However, Jane refused and stayed loyal to Lisbon. RJ appreciated that and help him to deceased all of them out of records.

7. Visualize has large connection and Obama had to favor them to win more votes in the upcoming election. Last time, Obama realized all members of visualize contributes 30% of the total vote in the election. If he owned Stiles to vote for Democrat, Obama doesnt need to lobby the Jewish for swing votes anymore.

Thank you for reading!
Finally Red John is revealed!!!  

  

I know I have already posted but I wanted to mention something else.

One thing that I think people have been overlooking myself included is that all of the suspects show a grudging dislike towards Patrick, I know this does not seem like much but I think it is perhaps one of the most significant clues we have.

It is quite clear that Red John does not hate Patrick, it is quite the opposite, Red John is quite fond of Patrick. Patrick is almost like family to Red John he has been a constant figure in his life for quite some time. There have been many occasions where Red John has saved Patrick and even reached out to him. Red John wants a friendship with Patrick something that is rather uncommon with all 6 suspects. I think that the need for further connection with Patrick also shows vulnerability, every time Red John is seemingly rejected by Patrick he kills, an act of defiance and rage, this makes me think that Red John is actually quite young, or was quite young somewhere in his 30s or early 40s now.

Personally I thought that it may be the sheriff but then I stated to realize that he does not fit the characteristics at all, the sheriff is seemingly kind hearted not to mention his age. I think that it is quite possible that Lisbon is working with Red John, it would make a lot of sense but I don't think it would make a good ending.

Think about the ideals of the show, it is about the constant presents of good and evil and the idea that evil can be overcome. Patrick has a warm and happy relationship with his team members. I honestly don't think that Heller would end it like that, the final message of the series and the reveal of Red John needs to be a powerful message, something that I don't think will be seen if Red John is someone to close to Jane.

On an unrelated note what do you think Patrick will do when he finds Red John?
I personally don't think he will outright kill him, because that concept very much conflicts with much of what Patrick stands for.