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A few random observations.

Something bothers me about the scene in Jane's living room.  Haffner knew it was about RJ.  Yet, when PJ said so, he said he was leaving.  Why?  If it's him, perhaps the others don't know his identity, even though my bet is on McAllister.  Still, it doesn't make sense.

I do believe RJ is trying to kill off the other 6 on PJ's list.  For what purpose?

One thing that narrows it down for me is that the actor playing the Young Man bears a strong resemblance to Haffner and McAllister.

Another clue I believe we've been feed concerns coffee.  Smith likes his with cream and sugar and Haffner, black.  Anyone else know about the others and how this might tie in?  It was certainly done on purpose.  (I am hesitant to say this, but Carmen Lee can be an anagram for 'lean creme'  -- makes me either think coffee or uniform).

Does anyone else think that perhaps Roy Tagliaferro might be a disciple of RJ, as well as Jay Roth?  Or must they be RJ?

I previously mentioned the song MacArthur Park, Lisbon's 'happy memory'.  SPOILER: we know Jane kills PJ in a park.  We know the song is a metaphor about a relationship that is crumbling, that took a lot of time to build ("the cake out in the rain").  I think it alludes to the demise of RJ, because in the TV guide it is stated that RJ wants a relationship with Patrick.  Not all of the suspects do.

Well, those are my random thoughts. Hopefully, there will be answers soon!

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Well, unfortunately the NON-LISTers like myself will be highly disappointed with the RJ's identity more than others will. This is basically because we are so much used to get twisted conclusions from Jane regarding other crimes and their perpetrators. It was like almost every time we didn't see it coming. However, the show had come to such a crux where almost everyone ever casted is accused of being Red John by different people. Normally you don't have this at that degree in other similar shows/movies. And there are two things which I believe that all will agree:

1- The reveal (and the ID) must have been so well-prepared that the audience wouldn't be highly disappointed
2- Achieving the above was nearly impossible because there were millions of theories regarding every single character on the show, so it's truly hard to come up with a surprise.

So it was a good (from the creator's side) move to create a list and have people slowly adjust their expectations within that frame. This way, even if the crowd gets disappointed, the level wouldn't be as much as in the other scenario. Of course, people like me still hope that the list is fake and we will have a really unexpected/mind-blowing reveal but we're now just a minority. I'm afraid, Brett will turn out to be alive and RJ himself (even though the idea itself is lame enough to make me throw up). Well, nothing is perfect in this life. Why should this show be?

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That would be hilarious if Rigsby and Cho (the comic relief team) correctly guessed RJ as Bertram in the second episode of season 6 after just getting the list.

"What took you so long, Patrick?! We had it like 6 episodes ago!"

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Hi, it's not to submit a theory, it's just to ask you a question.
Do you trust what Bruno Heller and Simon Baker said in the tv guide interview ?

Thanks for your answers.

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After years here off and on and then a lot of time lately I've come to the sad conclusion............

THE LIST DOESN'T EXCITE ME. I don't find one person on the list that is dynamic, sneaky, sly...anything that I imagine RJ to be. This leads me to think I'll be disappointed. I'd rather have Rigsby or Van Pelt be RJ in a massive twist than any one of the 7.

I just think RJ is a lot smarter than the guys on the list. Someone who is there but isn't. An apparition. The person who can blend in while at the same time lead. When I see that weird person feeding pigeons I don't think.."that is Partridge in disguise." I think "maybe RJ is someone like that who is just out in the open, under their nose, hearing their conversations." He is always one step ahead. The people on that list seem almost like dumbed down minion than RJ.

Just talking.

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Staple features of most theories:

Sherriff McAllister Theories: Xander Berkley is awesome. Rock, Paper, Scissors emphasis. Overanalysis of relationship with Patrick, which could apply to any suspect.

Bret Stiles Theories: Malcolm McDowell is awesome.

Ray Haffner Theories: He fits the physical description. Usually use their theories to judge other suspect's personalities. The most common suspect in process of elimination theories.

Bob Kirkland theories: Conveniently leave out plotholes.

Michael Kirkland theories: Don't explain why Jason Lennon doesn't recognise him.

Gale Bertram theories: They're alright. He doesn't fit the physical description. Closer to the reveal, he is being picked as a result of process of elimination.

Brett Partridge theories: Managed to counter-argue every argument against their theories, the most common of which is "Brett Partridge is dead."... I don't know if Brett Partridge fans are all lawyers, but I have nothing to say against them.

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I don't have a theory and I have stopped trying to figure out.

But what IS CLEAR is that, we have 2 groups amongst us fans:

1. Fans who think/want Brett Partridge as Red John
2. Fans who think/want Ray Haffner as Red John

Now, what would be fun is that writers coming up with something that really really surprises us. Someone else who we know.. That'd be awesome.. and healthy for the show too.
Or maybe not so.. Anyway, I am of the Partridge fan group.

To all my fellow Mentalist fans, I'd say

               KEEP CALM
                      AND
                WAIT FOR
 RED JOHN vs. JANE BATTLE!!

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