**Trying to do this without spoiling the episode**

I thought it was a great episode!
but loads of questions...but the main ones

Why didnt they show his face? also they didnt really answer what happened to his arm...was that done by him or someone else.

who was that at the back of...at the very end...i thought they were going to reveal but they didnt...do you think it is who i think it is..? 

if it is then how the fudge did they get away with that one (im guessing T.T)

But looking forward to the next episode...!!

i will put this again in comments sections so you know who im on about if ur all like what the F is he on about

so what was that??? who have ween seen that we thought was long gone??? 

stiles haffner and mcallister reported to be dead? are they really? smith surrendered to cbi, bertram is on the hunt. 
all indications point to him.

but than again, they should what appeared to be the left arm of partridge. but not his face. was it really him???

disappointed by this episode a bit.

i was rooting for mcallister and masburn. if i would have to decide now, i would go with bertram or a return from patridge... which is crazy

only a few hours away...let's discuss desert rose. many people have said Partridge is alive...if that is so, it says quite a few things that would be quite important:
1.) Partridge has a partner who is NOT bugged. And he would have to be one of his closest disciples (is this where Michael Kirkland makes an appearance)
2.) Partridge (aside from the partner) is also in tyger, tyger. In order for him to be alive, the entire crew that came to the crime scene would have to be TT. I DO NOT believe BP is RJ, but it is possible that another csi, a coroner, an emt, and a few officers are all TT and came bc tyger, tyger and Rj knew he was bugged.
3.) We know Rj is at least partially connected to Visualize, which means Visualize and Stiles would be connected directly to Tyger, tyger as well...is this why RJ tried to blow up the entire house with visualize and TT members + jane.
This is just my opinion, but all of this seems SOOOOO far fetched I can't even begin to fathom it. BP does not in anyway seem like the type to be taken in by Stiles. He has the lowest position in law enforcement, which would make it very hard to control people more powerful than he and to exert any sort of pressure on people like Smith, Bertram, or mccallister. I see no reason for someone like Lorelei, Frye, etc. to be attracted or drawn to him. Not only that, but the massive level of cover up and TT members necessary to facilitate his death would be extraordinary.
SOOOO the next issue is...if he isn't RJ, then 1 of two options become evident. RJ knows all about the bugs and knew where BP was (and why the fuck he was there) and left is phone somewhere where he should be to cover it up. This implicates Van Pelt, as she would have to tell RJ where BP is and let him know he is bugged. Orrrr...someone not on the list is RJ, is not bugged and simply followed BP to the location. Still, the question is, why did he get called to that location...I am not ruling out that BP was a double agent for RJ and TT...or that someone in TT told him to be there and RJ got the info from van pelt...

The twisted theory part II


 
For those
who liked and disliked the twisted theory about the way we are watching

PJ’s live as a CBI consultant chasing RJ, in the wrong order, here is some new matters
to think of.


For those who haven’t had the chance to look at
it, it’s here:

http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/11589
(important to read before the following)

 


In the comment of the previous theory, a reader
added how Kirkland and his twin Michael could easily fit the backwards story, a
good job I would like to add that one of them was chasing the tiger tigers and
got killed by them so the other one came for revenge, helped dismantling
tigers, and after questioning them the police knew about the existence of one
member who’s not been caught yet named RJ.

 (Kirkland
crossed the line by kidnaping PJ and cut the other guy’s finger), but still he later
joins the CBI in the hunt of RJ. As I said PJ’s memories are not so clear yet.

 



And I’m becoming to believe that there’s a certain
order of watching all episodes, maybe a symmetrical one, yeah this is going too
far I know… But we have certain episodes that can fit anywhere in the show, where
there’s no RJ being mentioned, it still have to be in the same season though.

 



Now we still have to talk about the list of six (Kirkland’s
out) and Lorelei.


Remember to think twisted, backwards,

 



Bertram McAllister and Smith are brave infiltrated
agent in the tiger.org.


After the tiger dismantling Gale will be promoted
in CBI, Reede in FBI and McAlister becomes the sheriff of Napa.


Stiles and Haffner may have had a deal with the
authorities to keep visualize, cause they were not involved in the tiger
killings.

The ritual we saw stiles in, it’s where the bust
for the tigers will take place. RJ was there and managed to escape.

 


Lorelei and Partridge are no easy subjects to
treat. They are both dead in Jane’s memories, why?

 

hey guys, do we really learn who is Red John in tonight's episode? I mean is it confirmed or anything? any comments from writers or Heller? Or are we just assuming it?

hello folks (PJ style if you like).
  the hour is upon us now. and it is upon heller as much as it is upon PJ. And not just in way of meeting his nemesis face to face. He ha a reputation to live upto. I would not begrudge Jane if he just finds out yea it was sherrif mcallister or bertram in the end. However, I would think, hey Patrick is that it? I mean you have kind of betrayed us. After 5 years of wit and your histrionics which amused us so much, you reduc e us to this? seriously man. you never revealed your simplest of silly thoughts and plans right until the end of a silly (rip the poor souls) homicide cases. We liked your rainwave and how we knew you'd delight us with your smarts in the end........we always liked it mate.
           And now, when the biggest chase of our lives is concluding, we are bored? Its a damp squib in a manner of speaking. I wonder how better it would be if you and heller would have lied all this time . You to lisbon and heller to us about the list. Hhow I wish it was another fake list like the one you supplied to Bob. I can myself follow the 3 dots trail and shotgun or no shotgun seriously. You better be playing the ultimate game of chess here mate (aussie style). And take everyone by utter surprise including the man RJ himself..


so dears, there goes my open letetr to Jane. Thats what I men here. see whatever the outcome, they much aw us. I mean there are 11000 theories here. so alleast 110 can hold some water i guess.. so there can be so many ways heller can put the pieces together so no point in following lame clues. It is sensible only if heller is able to take whichever way he does and the writers do and satisfy us. Thet have said 172 things over the last 5 years abt the rj case and some more 136 things audience have interpreted alleast here in this forum. so heller's job is to rope them up in the best possible manner. its a tought job to be fair to the team.
   But the best part is that its gonna be revealed. wait, hell, the best part is that the story and Jane is gonna continue. so all is gonna be well god willing.

cheers all m fans..
utkarsh

guys, i've been having scary dreams of being on jane's team and trying to setup a trap to catch red john and finding clues...   anyone else having the same dreams?