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Thomas McAllister

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There are a few other possibilities as well: 

1. The leaked episode is a fake, just to mislead us. Maybe Sunday will give us a different ending altogether. Different ending, mind you, not a different episode.

2. The leaked episode is the real deal, and if so, then maybe McAllister is NOT Red John! He may be another Timothy Carter, pretending to be RJ! The reason I think so is because this is just the 8th episode of the season. If RJ dies what happens in the rest of the episodes? Mentalist without Red John? :(

And also, the way the sheriff was killed was stupid! I don't think Heller will kill his creation of six years in such a manner. I hope not.

If the second point is true, we might see a 'resurrection' of Red John in the 9th episode or maybe later on. Maybe that is what forces Jane to get back into law enforcement. (I read thats what happens in 'My Blue Heaven'. I'm not sure.)

Whatever happens, I don't want the Red John saga to end this way.

Your views are welcome :)

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the leaked episode look like charlie chalpin episode, if it's really the episode that we will watch sunday i think Bruno Heller for the next episode should switch the mentalist to a comedy show tv.

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Good god...when Patrick said "You are Red John" and heared footsteps from the church entrance i was soooo excited to see Mashburn or Partridge show up and prove to Patrick again that he is always a step ahead.

And wtf? RJ calling 911? even Bob Kirkland faced his death like a hero.

It's really sad when you feel you are watching the greatest show ever and a serial killer with great mind then you have this mixed feelings :-( . 

What a poor writing from the man who created RJ!!.

I believe that the season 3 finale was WAY better than this one.

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I find it funny how everyone's either bitching about the reveal, or is in denial—trying to convince yourselves that this episode is a fake, and that this story deserves a better ending. Fine, it wasn't the climactic, jaw-dropping, gut-wrenching reveal that we all expected. However, you forget two important things about this episode.

Firstly, this episode was always going to be about Patrick. Nothing more, nothing less. It was about him finally getting his wish, finding justice. You're supposed to look at it from Patrick's point of view, not a third person viewer demanding for answers. He didn't want answers, he didn't want to give Red John the satisfaction and appreciation that Red John so desperately craves for and has fed on for so long. If you expected all the answers to be revealed in this episode then you're just impatiently unreasonable and stupid. There's still more than half a season to go, and I'm sure answers will come. And also, Xander Berkeley is a great actor, and he did justice to the Red John character, in my opinion. I don't understand how everyone's bitching about the acting.

Secondly, you forget that Heller himself did warn us about how our own ideas and theories of how Red John should be; how we've built up this almost untouchable immortal personality in our heads was going to ultimately leave us feeling disappointed and cheated on. But in all honesty, if you take a moment to reflect on the last 5 years, was this cruel? Should we feel led on for the past 5 years? Can we curse the producers and accuse them of having a knee-jerk reaction of a decision to choose McAllister as Red John? I wouldn't. I believe that Heller did know whom he wanted as Red John from the beginning, and that they probably did stick to the general plot from the get go. But clearly, as with any TV show, there are going to be instances of uncertainty from the producers part, depending on external factors such as whether the show is going to continue for another season each year, whether the actors playing some of these characters were going to be available at given times in the script, as well trying to please a wider audience to have the necessary views for the show to continue. I believe that it was 'cause of the fans' whining in the first place—about how the Red John saga was dragging along for too long.. yadda yadda—that the creators had to rush with the plot and reveal this season. You only have yourselves to blame, really.

All I have to say is, instead of whining about it, how about we try and be thankful for what we got, for once. Heller and co. have done an amazing job at keeping all of us entertained and guessing for the past 5 years, with all in all, a brilliant set of characters, a brilliant storyline and a brilliant production. I'm just grateful to have been part of the journey.

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https://twitter.com/jimmygadd/status/404056166956691457

https://twitter.com/jimmygadd/status/404056542283976704

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I think we are in the unfortunate situation that what has been revealed is not that Thomas McAllister is Red John, but that Bruno Heller is not as clever as we thought he was.

I suspect he has fallen into a hole where by he's taken this story too far, and he doesn't know how to clean it up. He's created a tangle of clues, subterfuge, and tricks that he doesn't know how to untangle. The result, for people like us who go over every scene, every trick, every angle, is disappointment.

Episode 6x8 is the biggest let down of the entire series. It isn't so much the choice of who is Red John, it's the execution of the episode. The actor who plays McAllister either wasn't up to the task, or wasn't given enough to work with from the writer. Bradley Whitford (season 3 finale) did a much better job of playing "Red John", and was much more convincing.

Unfortunately we've been hoist by our own petard; we've analysed too much, and expected too much.

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Last episode, Patricks comment when Reede broke down in custody:
"... Confessed to murder, Red John would never break like that, not even as an act"

Well, seems like he broke even worse...

I'm also hoping for it to be fake but I guess the whole season has to be fake then. Grown up men saying 'Tyger Tyger' to eachother and tattooing their secret clubsign on the arm. 

The list was a mistake to begin with, it removed all suspense of revealing Red John. They wasted 7 episodes on what? No information about Red Johns past and how he could gain so much power.

"I am psychic" - that should explain it all? 

You are psycho, Heller

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