I don't understand this. Sheriff said "That's why your wife and daughter is dead" and not "That's why I killed your wife and daughter".
I don't understand this. Sheriff said "That's why your wife and daughter is dead" and not "That's why I killed your wife and daughter".
I'd like a series about Red John's past, explaining how he turned into the antagonist we all have learned to respect, and in the final episode of the series he murders Jane's family. I actually loved it being McAllister, AND the Red John episode. I have followed this show since it first aired here in Norway, when I was 12, and for me, this was the best kind of closure on the Red John-saga. To see him at his weakest, begging for his life. It felt good to know that Red John was as human as the rest of us in the face of death. I know there are few who agree with me, but I for one love what Heller has done. He still dignified his character.
I would have loved to hear this tune while Patrick was finishing him :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-0MtJ2Jc8
I have to believe that McAllister is not the real Red John.
Bertram says nobody knows who Red John is.
Cordero does.
Almost none of the previous well crafted evidence to Red Johns identity is used in this latest episode.
I can't believe that Red John would be fooled so easily as bartering: Bertram says a place that Jane doesn't want, Jane says a public place that's very bad for Bertram, then offers a quiet places that sounds great in comparison.
It's the same as when you price something you sell too high in order to achieve a lower price that you actually want. Would Red John really fall for this? I doubt it.
This does indeed appear to be an appallingly written episode and I have to believe it's deliberate.
Simon Baker said it was bold/brave to do. And we've all assumed he meant killing Red John.
I have to believe that he meant PRETENDING to kill Red John.
I know some of you have given up. And I know others of you will give this a few more episodes to see where it goes. But I'm going to give it the rest of the 15/16 episodes of the season, and here's why:
Nobody would be foolish enough to kill off one of the biggest serial killers and nemesis' in TV history in the first half of a season and expect us to keep watching.
Nobody would be foolish enough to believe the audience of a show about how an eccentric and sad man solves crimes in an unorthodox way will be OK with that show suddenly being about that man being happy and the the rest of the show being a normal cop show.
And by the way, the only actual Red John episodes of this season were 1 and 8. The ones Heller wrote, because he always writes the Red John episodes. Sure people TALK about RJ in the other episodes, but the only episode in Season 6 with RJ was the first.
To me, this season has been about RJ burning his association with the Blake Association, since Jane had managed to find out about it and at some point someone would know who he was. So RJ had to get it dealt with. And how to people stop looking for RJ? Come up with a convincing person and story for Jane to believe he's found RJ and tell McAllister to take the fall.
The RJ episodes have frequently been the best and most intriguing of this show. This one was awful and seems like Heller couldn't be bothered. I have to believe thats because it was all a set up for Jane to go away, maybe so that RJ could finally retire like he said he would, without anyone searching for him.
However, if by the end of this series, when I get to episode 23, if I don't see a big red smiley face on a wall....
I quit.
FOR THOSE
WHO ARE INTERESTED IN RJ STRATEGY, BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE DESPITE WHAT WE CAN
READ ACTUALLY.
(skip the italics part)
Hello,
As I sadly expected
to, anger, disappointment and virulent
reviews are still dominating this website because many people feel cheated by
an RJ storyline ending they judge too simplistic and obvious to truly satisfied
them. It’s almost like because we guessed RJ identity rightly long before the
airing and CBS promo mistake ( let’s be honest there), the ending could only be
a bad one. Where’s gone the proudness of outsmarting the show creator and
writers at their game ? Wasn’t it the reason we’ve been so involved there in
the first place ? Anyway, I won’t say
anything more on the subject since I’ve already done so yesterday, explaining
why such a reaction has to be expected. (1)
I only
regret that such feelings make people blind to the point of not seeing RJ
strategy for the final encounter which explains a lot of questions we’ve been
wondering about (PI/3dots thing, Partridge death, the bomb at Jane’s house…).
Everything
makes sense when we admit a natural impression we got in 606, that the meeting
at Jane’s old house was meant to be the last one between the two enemies, not
only because Jane planned to kill RJ there but because RJ too intended to
definitively end the game in that precise place and occasion.
Let’s start
by the beginning : the game changing in Red John’s rules.
In his
video, RJ says “until you catch me or I
catch you”. While it’s pretty clear what the “you catch me” means, a lot of
speculations have run about the strange “I catch you”. What does it mean for RJ
to catch Jane ? If it was simply killing Jane in order to prevent him to find
his true identity, RJ wouldn’t have bothered with the list and murdered him
already. The only logical interpretation is to understand the “I catch you” as “I con you” : at that point, RJ had already
planned his next course of action for the 8 following episodes or had a pretty
clear idea of what he intended to do. (2)
As to how
he guessed Jane’s list of suspects,
2 possibilities : or Jane used computers to eliminate and investigate his
suspects, leaving traces behind him (less likely) or he tricked RJ into
thinking he was making big, final progresses in order to make the killer
wanting to regain the upper hand, because to do so, RJ would have to show his
cards, the list of seven names, in which he had to include his own name to
cover his basis. (I’ll give you more details later if you are interested in
them).
Partridge death :as we now know, Partridge had to cover the DNA falsification
which will allow RJ to fake his death after the explosion of Jane’s old house. It
had to be the first murder after the list reveal because he needed a gaps of
time long enough to assure himself that people won’t make connections between
the two events and draw the conclusion that a supposedly dead man is in fact
alive. Finally, luring Lisbon to the crime was a way for RJ to distract Jane
from the real purpose of the killing : too worried about his partner wellbeing,
he’d be less likely to think the legist died for any other reason than he wasn’t
anymore a useful RJ’s tool, than he was more of a risk than an advantage for
the serial killer, when he was carefully
preparing his disappearing.
PI murder/3 dots tattoo : Manipulating and killing the PI was
the last thing RJ needed to do to prepare the final confrontation between him
and Jane. At first sight, hiring the PI to bug CBI offices appears to be a
particularly clumsy, stupid move coming from such a great serial killer,
moreover so when he doesn’t complete his killing. But, on second sight, it
really is a smart move from his part : Rj wanted the PI to see his tattoo, gave
her the opportunity while fighting, and he wanted her to tell Jane about it,
the reason he left her still breathing.
But why would he do that ? It’s quite
simple in fact, and his plan all along : Rj wanted Jane to reunite the remaining
suspects in a unique place and the only way to achieve that was to give him a
reason to : the 3 dots tattoo. He wanted them all together in order to stage
the RJ death by default : if all RJ suspects die in an explosion, it’s safe to
assume that RJ is dead. Who would suspect than one of them to fake his death ?
Certainly not Jane, since he’d be killed with them… (3)
In
conclusion, the whole thing tells us that RJ
intended to disappear after the villa explosion, to use his fake death as a way
of escape Jane vengeance and justice. No one else, not even Jane, was supposed
to survive the explosion. Scientists would have found DNA of every people
present in the house when the explosion occurred and Lisbon, who knew who would
be there, would have confirmed that no one else was there. RJ’s freedom would
have been guaranteed without anyone knowing about it. He would have won.
Unfortunately
for him, something has gone wrong and Smith, Bertram and Jane survived.
It was the beginning of his downfall. Highly
confident in his intelligence, he probably didn’t thought something like that could happen and he had to
think fast about another plan., moreover so when Jane publicly accuse Bertram
of being RJ. It wouldn’t be strange that he started panicking to some degree,
anyone would have in this context. It only was a matter of time before Bertram
resurfaced, arrested by FBI or some other law enforcement, or trying to make
contact with Jane, which he did, in order to save his life. If he didn’t
already knew ( which would be strange with Jane being Jane), Jane would have
understand that Bertram wasn’t RJ and pursue his quest for revenge until he
finally succeed...
RJ's life
was at stake, his only solution was to kill Jane, no matter what. Pressed by
time, afraid for his life and freedom, reduced to react to events rather than
initiate them like he ordinarily do.
A desperate
man…
Bound to
commit mistakes, to underestimate his enemy…
An ordinary
man facing death.
(1) see
14937
(2) Pure
speculation : at that point in time (RJ’s rules), Jane had definitively refused
to give RJ his friendship which probably hurt the feelings of the killer, making
him start to think about a way of getting rid of Jane, since he couldn’t have
him. The Lorelei debacle was probably the detonator that made him act on his
intentions.
(3) I tend
to believe, without having any proof or certitude, that Jane understood what RJ
intended to do. That’s why he took so much precaution while preparing the
meeting. I’ll add, regarding RJ’s reaction when accused of being RJ, that he wasn’t
as convincing as he could have been because it didn’t really matter as everyone
was supposed to die soon.
"lesson we can derive from the last episode is that Almighty seems unbeatable fear death, Before , he used to tortured people, he killed often but he never felt the taste of death, till its he actually lives it."
Mccalister is a good one , he was being smarter enough to be Red John and finally RJ is a man , an ordinary man and plus if you remember last appareance of Brett Partridge in season 5 , he talked about how Red John works through friends and proxies ans mentionned that it's shame. , He had played a hard game by killing often and then got mad , so he surely will make mistakes one day.
The smarter side shown by Mccalister : In Episode 03 season 06 , Mccalister felt that Jane knows about the phobie from sophie miller, and thought it was Acrophobia , so Mccalister acted like he has the fear of heights to mislead Jane , but unfortunately a pidgeon apperead in the last scene in the Episode , and Patrick Jane of course, he noticed that , and uses it in the right time.
Sorry for my English...
So, Thomas McAllister or 'He is Mar'tin Talbot or whatever his name is, is Red John. Okay, I can live with that. I can live with the fact I was wrong. I quite like that he was, in the end, a rather unassuming character. As Patrick and the writers say 'I'm a little disapointed'... Sadly (if that's the right word) murderers tend to be rather disapointing. It's only the media and the serial killers own perpetuated ego that makes them bigger than the body count.
I find that the reveal of McAllister was true to life, were it not for the back and forward tricks over the years. I quite like that Red John was, in the end, pathetic. Scared of birds, probably not full of regret; even a vicious wild animal will seem to plead and whimper when it is wounded. Obviously he would do or say anything to be spared, before presumably biting the hand that feeds him. In the end, there are questions, like how did he know the list being but one of them?
He says, before being silenced by Janes hand that he has 'Real sight'.
Unlike Jane he did believe he was powerful, magical even. But, we know this not to be true, unless you're into that mumbojumbo. So! Who gave him the list? Red John will claim he is magical because it fits with his ego, even though he states previously that he knows he will not be judged or punished by a god. We assume he is an atheist, perhaps he was.