lisbon will have the three dot tattoo
lisbon will have the three dot tattoo
i think teresa is a disciple of RJ
Lisbon is NOT Red John, BUT she's being manipulated against her will by him and she knows it. I believe RJ contacted Lisbon with one of his creepy RJ 'Instant Messages' and told her he would kill Jane if Lisbon didn't play along. This may or may not have something to do with her random broken arm, but RJ knows Lisbon loves Jane and he's using that as leverage.
Jane knows Lisbon is no longer trustworthy. Hes known since last season. There are several times he deliberately gives her information that we the audience know is misleading. Jane most likely has known whom Red John is for some time now but he is pretending to buy into the list Red John concocted and he also knows that the tattoo is related to the secret law enforcement group. He only feeds Lisbon information that would lead Red John to believe Jane is buying the ruse that Red John is selling.
In yesterdays episode, Jane told Lisbon she was the most honest person he knows....double meaning? She is highly moral and Jane can read her well so if shes being forced to help RJ, I bet Jane picked up on it. Also, notice how her face is enraptured when he confesses his feelings out on the bluff. She's so in love with him that she would do anything to protect him.
Last night, Lisbon was CERTAIN Jane was throwing his life away she says it verbatim 2-3 times....she has *never* been this forceful. This is because she knows RJ has set a trap at PJ's Malibu House. RJ wanted Jane to get the remaining members of the list together with Jane so he could kill them all and tie things off neatly. -Everybody with any ties or knowledge of Red John would all die at the same time. RJ uses Jane to set this meeting up with the other members of the list because he cant get them all together himself and killing them off one-by-one would alert the others that RJ was coming for them -Just like in the previous episode with the false list.
Next weeks episode is called 'The Great Red Dragon'. I believe that is the acutal name of the group we are all calling 'Tyger, Tyger'. When this group realizes that three of their members have been kidnapped, they come out in force to rescue them. Thats what we are most likely seeing in next week's preview. Of course, RJ is COMPELLED to appear because when he finds out that PJ and some of the others have survived his bomb, he needs to be on site to 'finish off' anyone who might survive to talk.
Expect Jane to pull some crazy trick to lure RJ away from the other officers to try to kill the 'bait'.....then RJ will kidnap PJ and they will finally get to catch up and have some "alone time" to talk about their relationship. Red John gives the *final* rose to Patrick Jane. Eat your heart out, Chris Harrison!
I guess PJ already knew from the begining about the Tiger Tiger group and found out about their identifying feature in s06e05: the three dots. Therefore Smith knew that Kirkland wasn't part of the organisation. Maybe they show it to each other when they meet for the first time or they're having a special way of starting a conversation. I dont know..
But PJ wants everyone to believe that he thinks RJ has this tattoo. Even Lisbon. And thats why I still think he doesn't trust her at all and tries to trick her into believing he's close to finding out who on the list is RJ. I dont know why, but I still believe that Lisbon is somehow involved in this whole RJ-thing. Maybe even RJ herself, but that means that ALL the descriptions we gathered throughout these 6 years were wrong. And that would be very poor writing. I still struggle to believe that one of those 3 has to be RJ. It kind of feels wrong. We learned multiple times throughout this series that we should never trust the "obvious" things.
I also noticed that PJ acted very weird (they way he talked) towards Lisbon and she was kind of strange too. Maybe it was because of the "goodbye" and he really has strong feelings for her or he's tricking her into bevlieving that she's safe and PJ doesnt know shit about her.
Like I said, it kind of feels wrong that one of these 3 men is RJ. Someone here mentioned that RJ could have removed his tattoo easily. That would make sense IF he knows that PJ found out. But that would mean that there's a leak within the CBI-team of Lisbon.
Okay, I am not actually accusing Lisbon of being Red John. (Not that you should rule it out just yet at this point).
{[(SPOILERS dead ahead)]}
With all the people on the list acting so suspicious to the point that it is obnoxious, all the main characters are drowning. However, in this most recent episode, Lisbon seemed a little off. Like, for example, how much she freaked out over Jane being in danger. What danger? He may be in trouble afterward, but in peril? Naw!
So, this poses some questions:
Does Lisbon know something Jane doesn't?
Is Lisbon Red John (or Jane)?
Does Lisbon think she knows who Red John is?
Did she think that Jane was bringing in false Red Johns and the real Red John would attack?
Why was she so insistent on being there and when she wasn't, suddenly, he was in danger (even though she already told Jane she would let him kill Red John, so it has nothing to do with him being in trouble afterward)?
Would her being there stop Red John from attacking?
Who cares that much for Lisbon? Haffner (former CBI who helplessly flirts with her)? Sam Bosco (her former partner in crime)? Mashburn (her one night stand)? Who? Who?? Who???
And why all of a sudden is she okay with Jane killing Red John and not going to stop him?
Is it because it became personal for her, too? A woman's scorn? Revenge???
What made her change? It didn't happen in this episode. Was it the last? Was it the tattoo?
Who's arm has she seen? Mashburn's? Bosco's?
Is Bret Patridge still alive??? No, he's dead. If he's Red John, then Red John's a zombie and you're watching the wrong how.
Ehem, anywho...How did Lisbon know where Jane would go? A hunch? She seemed certain. Did he tell her and we didn't see? Or is Lisbon Red John? Did Lisbon plant the bomb? Did she need to be there to get Jane out, kill all his suspects, and have him realize he's was never close when Red John strikes again?
Is Red John a mass of people and not just one person?
Is Tiger Tiger a mass of low-level cops who do the dirty work? Are they after Red John, too?
Did Kirkland know too much?
Why did Kirkland kill that Red John affiliate in the hospital and say that he'd be honored to die for this too and hopes someday someone would do the same for him were he in this situation? Why does everyone forget that?
Did Kirkland once work for Red John, but no more (before dying of course)?
Is Kirkland a zombie, too? Wait, wrong show again.
Ehem, anywho...Why was Lisbon so calm in the car, driving to the meeting place for knight of the red table?
Welp, I for one, do not believe Lisbon is Red John, but it seems she knows something. She seemed to calm and unsettled at the same time. I've never seen Lisbon act like this before. Perhaps, she is conflicted...
It seems, due to the tattoo, and basing off of the list, the remaining three suspects are: Reede Smith, Thomas McAllister, and Gale Bertram.
Let me eliminate all three of those. Remember when the guy they got out of prison and he ran from them. He died, while he was with a woman. He wrote in blood on the wall: "He is Ma". There is another letter after the "a," however, it is either illegible, incomplete, or smudged.
The three remaining suspects initials are: RS, TM, and GB. No MA there. The first two letters of the first and last names are: Re, Sm, Th, Mc, Ga, and Be. No Ma there, either. The last two letters of the first and last names backwards are: Ed, Ht, Sa, Re, El, and Ma.... Welp, there is one Ma. It's a stretch, but if the guy was planning on writing backwards and considering the next letter most resembled an S or an R, it could work: Martreb Elag. Only way to get "He is Ma" out of any of the list.
Personally, I think Bertram is a no because he reports to someone and RED JOHN REPORTS TO NO ONE!!! RED JOHN IS THE REPORTEE, NOT THE REPORTER!!!
I think Smith does not fit the build of Red John as seen in past seasons.
I think McAllister is eliminated because of the "He is Ma" thing unless McAllister was the clue, but that's a little far stretched, as well. Plus, I'm not sure Red John would deny he was Red John because it was practically begging for his life.
So, I think the list of seven is not a list of true suspects, but a list of characters who are going to die. Once they are dead, Red John (who has promised to kill and has yet to aside from the girl last episode who had information) will kill someone to say "Hey, I'm still here" just like he did after Jane killed the Strawberries and Cream dude who said he was Red John when in fact, he was not.
The question is, is does Jane know that the list is wrong? Does it just mean that he discovered some of Red John's biggest allies? Is that why Red John was so pissed? If Jane knows, this could all have been an act, a rouse. Red John is out there and still needs to be fooled, but who is Red John?
Jane has his list, I have mine:
Walter Mashburn
Michael Washburn
Which one could it be...? ;)
People. Red John paints the smiley face to be seen prior to the sight of the dead body. He painted Lisbon's face with a smiley face. Prior to the sight of Lisbon's dead body.
(Yeah, not her.)
Had to wait longer to watch the episode do to the rerun issue. I have never agreed to the list, and after figuring out the 3 members of TT (which we all pretty much knew), its obvious Red John isnt on the list. Like honestly, leaving 2 of the most obvious suspects to be Red John, and 1 of them being him? That's just not right.
I believe that the 3 people were shot, and that next episode will include the death of the 3 TT members, and the death of Stiles (due to his illness). That'll leave only Haffner left on the list, which would be a disappointment if he turned out to be RJ. I tryed so hard to believe in the list, but after this episode, it's obvious the list wasn't true for Rj. When Heller said to trust the list, he probably meant for the TT organization, not for RJ. I believe now also that Lisbon has something to do with RJ, but will backstab him for PJ.
Some things that still confuse me:
~ Word is RJ is figured out Ep.8. What will the rest of the season be about? It would be boring to watch many episodes of trying to find RJ, even though they know who he is (by that time).
~ How Haffner isn't marked with the TT "logo" you can say. Does this mean TT is fairly new? Maybe a year or 2?
~ Jane going back to his house and seeing the RJ face. I don't think blood can stay that long on a wall, I believe PJ just redrew it to show what has happened.
~ Why JJ LaRoche hasn't been really apart of this season. Heck, even Hightower has had a bigger part then him. I believe an episode with the return of Virgil is in the works??