Who is Red John?

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Okay, I am not actually accusing Lisbon of being Red John. (Not that you should rule it out just yet at this point).


{[(SPOILERS dead ahead)]}

With all the people on the list acting so suspicious to the point that it is obnoxious, all the main characters are drowning. However, in this most recent episode, Lisbon seemed a little off. Like, for example, how much she freaked out over Jane being in danger. What danger? He may be in trouble afterward, but in peril? Naw!

So, this poses some questions:
Does Lisbon know something Jane doesn't?
Is Lisbon Red John (or Jane)?
Does Lisbon think she knows who Red John is?
Did she think that Jane was bringing in false Red Johns and the real Red John would attack?
Why was she so insistent on being there and when she wasn't, suddenly, he was in danger (even though she already told Jane she would let him kill Red John, so it has nothing to do with him being in trouble afterward)?
Would her being there stop Red John from attacking?
Who cares that much for Lisbon? Haffner (former CBI who helplessly flirts with her)? Sam Bosco (her former partner in crime)? Mashburn (her one night stand)? Who? Who?? Who???
And why all of a sudden is she okay with Jane killing Red John and not going to stop him?
Is it because it became personal for her, too? A woman's scorn? Revenge???
What made her change? It didn't happen in this episode. Was it the last? Was it the tattoo?
Who's arm has she seen? Mashburn's? Bosco's?
Is Bret Patridge still alive??? No, he's dead. If he's Red John, then Red John's a zombie and you're watching the wrong how.
Ehem, anywho...How did Lisbon know where Jane would go? A hunch? She seemed certain. Did he tell her and we didn't see? Or is Lisbon Red John? Did Lisbon plant the bomb? Did she need to be there to get Jane out, kill all his suspects, and have him realize he's was never close when Red John strikes again?
Is Red John a mass of people and not just one person?
Is Tiger Tiger a mass of low-level cops who do the dirty work? Are they after Red John, too?
Did Kirkland know too much?
Why did Kirkland kill that Red John affiliate in the hospital and say that he'd be honored to die for this too and hopes someday someone would do the same for him were he in this situation? Why does everyone forget that?
Did Kirkland once work for Red John, but no more (before dying of course)?
Is Kirkland a zombie, too? Wait, wrong show again.
Ehem, anywho...Why was Lisbon so calm in the car, driving to the meeting place for knight of the red table?


Welp, I for one, do not believe Lisbon is Red John, but it seems she knows something. She seemed to calm and unsettled at the same time. I've never seen Lisbon act like this before. Perhaps, she is conflicted...

It seems, due to the tattoo, and basing off of the list, the remaining three suspects are: Reede Smith, Thomas McAllister, and Gale Bertram.

Let me eliminate all three of those. Remember when the guy they got out of prison and he ran from them. He died, while he was with a woman. He wrote in blood on the wall: "He is Ma". There is another letter after the "a," however, it is either illegible, incomplete, or smudged.

The three remaining suspects initials are: RS, TM, and GB. No MA there. The first two letters of the first and last names are: Re, Sm, Th, Mc, Ga, and Be. No Ma there, either. The last two letters of the first and last names backwards are: Ed, Ht, Sa, Re, El, and Ma.... Welp, there is one Ma. It's a stretch, but if the guy was planning on writing backwards and considering the next letter most resembled an S or an R, it could work: Martreb Elag. Only way to get "He is Ma" out of any of the list.

Personally, I think Bertram is a no because he reports to someone and RED JOHN REPORTS TO NO ONE!!! RED JOHN IS THE REPORTEE, NOT THE REPORTER!!!

I think Smith does not fit the build of Red John as seen in past seasons.

I think McAllister is eliminated because of the "He is Ma" thing unless McAllister was the clue, but that's a little far stretched, as well. Plus, I'm not sure Red John would deny he was Red John because it was practically begging for his life.

So, I think the list of seven is not a list of true suspects, but a list of characters who are going to die. Once they are dead, Red John (who has promised to kill and has yet to aside from the girl last episode who had information) will kill someone to say "Hey, I'm still here" just like he did after Jane killed the Strawberries and Cream dude who said he was Red John when in fact, he was not.

The question is, is does Jane know that the list is wrong? Does it just mean that he discovered some of Red John's biggest allies? Is that why Red John was so pissed? If Jane knows, this could all have been an act, a rouse. Red John is out there and still needs to be fooled, but who is Red John?

Jane has his list, I have mine:
Walter Mashburn
Michael Washburn

Which one could it be...? ;)

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I still stand by my Mashburn assumption, even though he is not on the list. I feel like the list is throwing a bone to the fans by having Jane guess the some of the most popular guesses among fans.

I do not think it is anyone on the list. Red John said it was Jane's list. He never said any were correct. He said Jane had gotten closer. That could simply be that everyone on that list works for Red John.

So, from this episode, the point I took to point toward Walter Mashburn was:

SPOILERS
He didn't kill Lisbon, which means he prefers her alive, probably due to caring for her. This to be would point to few people: Her colleagues Rigsby and Cho, her old partner Same Bosco, her boss Gale Bertram,  and her one-night stand Walter Mashburn. It could also point to Jane, but it is obvious it is not him. That would make the whole creation of the character Lorelai a big waste. 

Lorelai proved many things. Here's a few:
1. Red John is a man
2. Red John has "met" and shook the hand of Jane (how can Jane meet himself and shake his own hand; this also rules out Jane's father and relatives)
3. Red John is a charmer and a deceiver, but still a womanizer

Lorelai was sent to Jane for Red John to feel some kind of bond to Jane through sharing. I feel like he did as a trade. Like, a "see Jane, you shared the woman you obviously love with me, now I will share the one I love with you" kind of thing.

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Ding dong the Red John fanboy is dead! So, Red John killed Partridge, the fanboy. It was obvious that Partridge was not Red John. He fancied the work of Red John far too much.

I can see this playing out as Red John killing the list off one by one, leaving the most believable suspect left and while they try to prove the remaining person on the list as being Red John, only for Red John to kill that person as well. Red John is always 10 steps ahead. It is a game to him and his is toying with Jane. Or he might save Bret Stiles for last and fail in trying to kill him since he's also very powerful, but it would still prove the point, only while leaving Stiles still in suspension of setting it up to clear his name. I do not believe Stiles is Red John, however. In one episode, he said he was bigger or more powerful than Jane and Red John. Basically saying their squabbles are petty compared to him. He is the ultimate mentalist...huzaah!

Why then would Red John be so mad about Jane's list? For one, he turned Lorelai against him and he had to kill her. Very angering, so he is already annoyed by Jane and that this whole Lorelai plan backfired on him. Something he lost on, though Jane would not consider it a victory for himself, while Red John would. Also, if everyone on that list works for Red John (like Bob Kirkland who killed that guy and said he would pretty much be honored to die for Red John, meaning he's not the boss), he would be very angered to have to kill his best infiltrators.

In summary, I have ruled out Partridge, Kirkland, and Stiles. I do believe the list is a bone thrown that will also distract and lead us astray (same for Jane).  I believe Red John will be someone Jane gets along with like Risgy, Cho, or Mashburn. I strongly believe Mashburn is Red John. If Jane turns out to be Red John, if his father turns out to be Red John, or if a lady turns out to be Red John, I feel they will have to backtrack a lot, which is a lame cop out.

Mashburn = Red John
"He is Ma..."

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I think it is Jack Coleman from S03E04, the guy whom gifts Patrick a gun. He basically got away with murder and tells Jane it was worth it. Little bits of dialogue stick out in particular, like how he says "Anger is unproductive, and unhelpful." To which Jane replies "Well I don't know, some people it's invigorating." Only to receive a maniacal grin afterwards. He also says"You want to know my secret for inner peace? It's called reconciliation..." to which he goes on, almost as if to coach or comfort, that he needs a new start to which he decides how he lives thereafter. Throughout every conversation, Jack Coleman seems to trot carefully and plan ahead, just like RJ. He even "reads" Jane at one point.  Lorelei says both he and RJ are similar, and the similarities are quite peculiar.

Flaws:
-Denies tea
-Doesn't shake hands
*Has son

Support:
-Matches RJ Profile (Smart, 30yrs.+, killer, much like PJ)
-Odd use of dialogue and interaction
-Gives Jane a gift (He has given "gifts" to Jane before)
-Financially well off
-Has high friend who tells him that some one from D.A.'s office helped his case.

Additional Thoughts:
Despite denying tea, we know that he is a patient man, one that waited and planned for 10 years just to kill. And denying tea one time doesn't mean he doesn't drink it. TV shows don't always have to reveal scenes, they are often added later. This could account for the two flaws. *And as for his son*, RJ is complex and intricate, he knows how to work people and work around people. His actions either make a point or lead to a reason unknown. So really, it doesn't matter who he is affiliated with in his personal life, only the RJ life affiliates matter. Giving the gun to PJ could foreshadow how RJ's death will happen? But I have digressed.

P.S.
Uncertain if it matters, or if others have noticed it, but what do you guys make of the tiger painting on the wall in Bradley Whitford's (fake RJ) house? It may or may not have a sub-direct correlation with the plot.

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