There are so many clues pointing to all on the list that anyone of our theories are all equally valid. I don't care who it is AS LONG AS ITS NOT REEDE anyone but reed, please god. He would be the worst red John. He seems very childish angry, not well composed. I would be so disappointed but it's for that reason I think it's gonna be him. No logic, just that he is the last person I would choose.

My ultimate choice would be Rigsby, wow what an ending. to see him exposed and do a complete character turn would be amazing. The creepy voice and his presence would be the fantastic ending. It would knock our shocks off and be unexpected. it would also make perfect sense in that red john would be always ahead of them knowing everything. Remember red john plays an acting game, he wont risk exposing himself. What better disguise than of the aloof innocent team member.

If the suspect is on the list then my next choice would be Haffner. We need a red john that would do the show justice and the others don't fit everything we have been told. It needs to make sense, the descriptions of him etc. Haffner was super creepy in that hospital scene gave me shivers and Lisbon brushed it too quckly off and made a slight joke that she had to get out of the hospital, but he really scared me. The sheriff is too...country. Patridge is more than likely dead, they told us that so maybe we need to listen. He would have been great too. I really want them to keep the creepy voice, the voice really makes him scary. I hope this is his real voice.

A few other things- Kirkham asked that man he killed in the hospital did he recognise him because he just wanted to see/test if RJ might his twin brother, he was relieved when the man said no. I also read the other theory that that was actually red john, the twin but I don't think so.


finally why do people keep saying that tiger tiger group are against red john, they are with him, Kirkham wanted to kill red john the tiger tiger group killed him. They are together that is why they have s much power. It's red johns group, not separate from him.

There are so many clues pointing to all on the list that anyone of our theories are all equally valid. I don't care who it is AS LONG AS ITS NOT REEDE anyone but reed, please god. He would be the worst red John. He seems very childish angry, not well composed. I would be so disappointed but it's for that reason I think it's gonna be him. No logic, just that he is the last person I would choose.

My ultimate choice would be Rigsby, wow what an ending. to see him exposed and do a complete character turn would be amazing. The creepy voice and his presence would be the fantastic ending. It would knock our shocks off and be unexpected. it would also make perfect sense in that red john would be always ahead of them knowing everything. Remember red john plays an acting game, he wont risk exposing himself. What better disguise than of the aloof innocent team member.

If the suspect is on the list then my next choice would be Haffner. We need a red john that would do the show justice and the others don't fit everything we have been told. It needs to make sense, the descriptions of him etc. Haffner was super creepy in that hospital scene gave me shivers and Lisbon brushed it too quckly off and made a slight joke that she had to get out of the hospital, but he really scared me. The sheriff is too...country. Patridge is more than likely dead, they told us that so maybe we need to listen. He would have been great too. I really want them to keep the creepy voice, the voice really makes him scary. I hope this is his real voice.

A few other things- Kirkham asked that man he killed in the hospital did he recognise him because he just wanted to see/test if RJ might his twin brother, he was relieved when the man said no. I also read the other theory that that was actually red john, the twin but I don't think so.


finally why do people keep saying that tiger tiger group are against red john, they are with him, Kirkham wanted to kill red john the tiger tiger group killed him. They are together that is why they have s much power. It's red johns group, not separate from him.

I'll try to be clear.

There was a serial killer, Todd Johnson, that used to kill only cop, ordered by Red John, his lasts words in the hospital was TYGER TYGER, maybe he was trying to give a clue to jane about this Tyger Club. What if RJ wanted to kill those people and asked for Todd to do it?

Following this line, Todd Johnson killed the husband of Hightower, what if he was some of them? Why the hell the aunt of Hightower called Jane "Poor Lamb", does she know something about or just Heller trolling?

I think personally we can bring that RJ suspect list from five to four, it's possible Reede Smith could still be RJ, but I find it unlikely in the fact RJ wouldn't expose himself like he did at the end of S6, episode 4 as RJ a lot of the time sends out his associates to clean up after him or do his dirty work.

Not to mention at the end of Season 4 in the episode The Crimson Hat, RJ tells PJ that he has a good friend in the FBI, as Smith is the only FBI agent on the RJ suspect list and we know know he is an associate in his network, it would stand to reason Smith is that friend.     

how did reede smith know that Bob Kirkland are not in the RedJohn organitations?
when he said " Tyger Tyger "  smith is like nothing.
but we know that Red John had many member in law inforcement.

sorry for my english

OK, let me get this straight first. My first choice is McAllister, as I've posted here before. And the chance of Smith being the Red John is this thin. And no, this has nothing to do with his appearance or attitude. This is simply a matter of good storytelling. You don't run 5 seasons worth of a manhunt and then introduce the real bad guy in just one episode in season 5. Nope, that's a cop-out writing.
On the other hand, people gloss Smith over way too easily. As this season shows, he's actually pretty ruthless, smart, and capable of extreme violence. Think of Saul Goodman--dude sleazes around a lot, but damn isn't he good at what he does. Smith is just like that. Kudos to Drew Powell for that scene when he fakes obliviousness to Kirkland. That's a stellar acting right there. 

Here is why Reede Smith is Red John.  And if not, he is at least one of the top 3 of the remaining suspects:

Aside from all of the "what's in a name theories," which may or may not be relevant, there was something I noticed in tonight's episode that caught my eye.  When Reede was invited early on in the episode to the private meet-up in the park by Kirkland, Kirkland slyly used the "tyger, tyger" code phrase to test whether Smith was part of the organization.  If you'll notice, although Kirkland did it mid-speech, and in a pretty convincing manner, Reede Smith didn't even blink and acted as if he had no idea what "tyger, tyger" meant.

But, at the end of the episode, after he kills Kirkland, he turns to the prisoner transport driver, whom it would appear he had never met, and instructs him how to cover it up.  Then he uses the phrase "tyger, tyger" to the driver, a person he seemingly had never met, but must've known was indeed a part of the organization (although the driver apparently didn't now him, otherwise why the need for the code words).

So, Reede Smith is either Red John, or he is so high up in the organization that he knows everyone who is and isn't a part of it.  He knew Kirkland wasn't a part of it, even though Kirkland used the right code in at least as convincing manner as he and the driver did later.  And he knew the paddy-wagon driver was, presumably without the driver ever having met Smith.

It was as if the "tyger tyger" code was irrelevant to Smith, who knows all who are a part of the organization whether they use the code or not.  Yet, he uses it to rally his troops, and confirm to those who may have never met him (i.e. the driver) when needed.

Bertram - It appeared obvious in the meeting between Smith, Bertram, and McCalister a while back, that Bertram is subordinate in the food chain to Smith, reminding Bertram of his job to keep an eye on Jane.

McCalister - who was completely aloof in the same meeting, and appeared ignorant of Jane's investigation into Red John, was either playing it so cool as to not reveal his identity to the others in the room, or he is legitimately not Red John.  The other two in the room seem to ignore him.  However, he is also the most relaxed, almost careless in his posture in the meeting.  While the other two men are engaged in Jane's words as if trying to protect themselves.  

Stiles & Haffner - are the other two possibilities, but I think they are too obvious as choices.  Too naturally sinister.  Smith is a much better "pay off" for the show than either of these two guys.  I think his character will be more and more developed the longer this season goes on too, which will make it even better.

While McCallister could've been a good choice, I don't think his character has been developed enough in the story to make him a worthy Red John.  Based on the clues from last night's episode, and the way Reede Smith's character has been annoyingly sprinkled in to the plot over time, I think Reede Smith as Red John is the most plausible suspect.