Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Hi, my nickname is Theresa90, and 11 months ago i posted here a theory wich i copy/pasted lower down. I would like for you all to understand one thing. This show is a show THAT AT THE END MUST BE BASED ON FACTS. Because it is made like this from the begining.
secont thing, PJ is a person wich can hypnotize people, read minds, body language...do you think he wouldnt know about Mcallister? In several episodes, he would just know that random people are lovers, without those people even looking at him. do you think that the entire series of BODY LANGUAGE, HYPNOTIZING and FACIAL EXPRESIONS WOULD GIVE YOU MCALLISTER? people, wake up, they are playing a kon on us all.


POINT OF THIS? People, USE YOUR IMAGINATION. IF YOU USE IT; YOU CAN SEE THIS SHOWS ENDING WITH A MUCH MORE GREATER PERSPECTIVE.
My suspect is Patrick Jane. WHY? WHAT IF McAllister was hypnotized all the time, what if MAR means MARIONETTE
Why do you believe literally everything BH,SIMON BAKER and others write or say? They cant just say, hey people, PJ IS RJ. Than the series would be over


Why nobody suspects him? Because he is the main actor, cute, sexy, too positive to be a serial killer we hate at the same time....people, think about it.....

- Do you think Oscar dies just because? Lisbon said she has a date with him as a joke in front of PJ and guess what happens next.....Jane jelaous , Oscar dies..not for the first time that the persons who want something with Lisbon die right after PJ finds out.....
- What do we see in this season? Jane and a LOT of women going around him....Lisbon, Blondie, Fischer....Isnt RJ the charming one who can have any woman he want?
- And again.....Jane mentions to Blondie....nobody knows who i really am.....and that is something we dont hear for the first time....
-What if Mcallister was hipnotized by PJ? Or was a sacrifice for PJ (RJ) who wanted to get possible clues of his back? 
- I dont say that Jane has a bird phobia but i noticed he is not comfortable around them, also he is afraid of heights....

- The dead psy? Well one thing i know is that when someone has 2 personalities he doesnt know about his second personality....so if PJ was there his RJ personality killed her and she was talking to the RJ personality...she probably wouldnt say to PJ...you have a RJ personality in you too....she was going with the flow and pretending to be talking to 2 persons like she never met them before...to PJ and to RJ...

- In Sophie Millers description Rj is described as a person with no living family but he has friends on wich he relies on.....so for me even this indicates on PJ...
- RJ has a narcis personality.....never saw that in TM....but is Jane a narcy? Yup...
- AND SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.....I WAS JUST NOW LISTENING TO THE TAPE....IT IS CLEARLY SAID THAT RJ DEALS WITH THE FEAR OF HEIGHTS? WE CLEARLY ALSO SEE THAT PJ IS AFRAID OF HEIGHTS AND THAT MCALLISTER IS NOT....I THINK THAT THE FEAR OF BIRDS WAS MADE UP BY PJ...PJ SAID THAT RJ IS AFRAID OF BIRDS....
- MCALLISTER WAS OR A RJ (PJ) DISCIPLE AND HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO DIE TO PROTECT THE REAL RJ (PJ) AND GET HIM OF THE HOOK....OR MCALLISTER WAS HIPNOTIZED BY PJ WITH BERTRAM AND WAS ORDERED TO COME TO THE CHURCH.
- PJ GOT AWAY FROM JUSTICE BECAUSE HE KILLED THE FAMOUS MURDERER


Here are some things i would like to point out from the previous seasons,episodes....

...in the season 4 where Jane is talking to Lorelei she says why did they never became friends when they are so alike...i did not see anyone soo damm alike to Jane in the episodes

...and the face RJ drawns with blood is just like Janes face...

...why there were no RJ killings while PJ was in Las Vegas for 6 months...

...how the hell did Lorelei found him in Las Vegas?

....why was exactly the CBI dude Luther Wainwright the one who got caught by RJ...if i remember he and PJ were insulting each other the episode before...and RJ does not like to be insultet in any way..so LW ended up dead...why it was not hmmm...Lisbon? Because PJ likes her and think as a friend/crush

...and now you will ask me what are the other suspects doing in the series...and i wil tell you that they are nothing but distractions...just to keep us away from Jane in the first place....and on the other hand doing misunderstandings with PJ s mind...like for example the girl in the graveyard was sent from a disciple just to mindfuck PJ and the person with the baseball hat could be any of them...

....in the series we can see that PJ is very good at faking things...from his mental acts to his behaviour...like when he was in a verbal fight with Luther, even Lisbon believed all of that but it was just an act....

...somehow RJ is always one step ahead of PJ...wich is impossible...he knows his every move, his every tought and his every trick...


...when PJ lost his memory he was a complete different person....

...nobody did not know about the meeting between Gale Bertram and PJ....

...how did RJ knew that PJ is going to the graveyard just when he saw the happy anniversary note on his car...PJ when arrived there was not looking around for RJ, but he was looking in the graves, and why he hipnotized the girl and said to Lisbon RJ could kill her...he could instead leave her go and follow her...

...also there is a big black hole in the series when James Panzer was killed by RJ...it was a great moment for PJ to follow Panzer privately just to get in trouble with RJ as he always did before...but this time he didnt....

...why is PJ keeping all the sudden everybody away from RJ...ok, he says that if anybody talks about RJ ends up dead...but i think there is something behind that....i think that PJ usually wouldnt care that much about others and that he would try to set a bait for RJ in that way....

....why didnt RJ take for example Van Pelt, or Cho, or Rigsby in the limo but exactly Luther wich PJ didnt like so much...and why is the group VP,Cho, Rigsby and Lisbon safe for 5 seasons now...

...why did RJ wanted to "have fun" with Darcy instead for example Lisbon wich is also helping to solve the RJ case with PJ...

...how come that Christina Frye is alive but was in contact with RJ....he hipnotized her wich is the thing Patrick does...and PJ does not kill her as RJ because he liked her..

....the voice in the limo sounds like PJ...

...."does anyone know who you are?"...charlotte asks PJ while halucinating...

....i am just not sure if PJ is RJ frome the beginning or it is half Timothy and half Jane...

...i think that when RJ was thinking it was time for him to approach was the time in the mall..because he knew he has done his job but wanted jane to continue it...so jane with the mental disorder did so...but when the Jane persona was more powerfull in his head than the RJ persona then the disciples and the clues where there to mess up janes head again...

...and whats with the happy memory thingy only Pj knew ;)

.. Also Red John guessed all the suspects correct which is impossible since how would he know which people did Jane shake hands with. 

...Its feels like Jane is Red John. Whether its a case of multiple personality disorder perhaps..

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Hi all,

I watched the last episode again (i didn't watch any other episode since that one) and I have spotted something and I am now 100% convinced that McAllister is not RJ. Once McAllister is dead, Jane points slightly the gun towards himself about to shoot himself and then we can see that something goes through his mind, something like a "oh no-moment", something that could sound like "Oh no.. -That- happened.. He is not / can't be Red John" and then he puts the gun down in McAllister's hand. It is all very subtle but I am sure I am seeing it.

What do you think? Am i going crazy? Still one year later?

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I want to take the Red John finale on my hands. So my Red John is Bret Partridge. How? Bret Partridge fake his death, on the morgue on his shoulder we have seen that cut. What is the logic on doing that cut? If someone want to cover that Partridge was in Black A than when they doing that cut is evident that they cover something(the 3 dots). Is no logic on doing that cut just if Partridge was not in Black Association and he won't have the tatoo. But we know that Partridge have a tatoo, sooo that budy is not Partridge and the shoulder was cut because THERE IS NO TATOO. If there was a tatoo no need to do that cut, because when you do the cut is clearly you hide this dots. So that budy have not tatoo on shoulder and is not Partridge. I like to think that Partridge Is Red John and he win the duel with Patrick Jane making him to think that RJ is dead(Thomas MC.A.).

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Theory #18605 • By LungButter
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Ron casually strolls around CBI, but no one can really say what he is doing. I would suggest he was once a carnival freak with Jane and became Red John because of jealousy. Ron is all places at all times, and never has to inject himself into the drama or showmanship of CBI investigations. Clearly, Ron is Satan. Ron is Red John.
Has no one suggested that Ron likes to make his job easier? How else could Ron make his job easier than to get Patrick Jane to work for CBI. Is Ron not legend? Is he not wise? Is he not always smiling? 

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This is a "in defense of McAllister as RJ" post. I must admit I was as
disappointed as any of you when I first saw 6x8. I was literally yelling
at my computer and cursing BH. But I want to make the point that, just
because BH and the showrunners suck at explaining everything, doesn't mean that McAllister is any less suitable an RJ than the other candidates, given the available information.

There is a lot of grief over all
the little clues not being explained satisfactorily. But remember,
McAllister OFFERED to explain to Jane how he knew about the list, and
Jane didn't care. Why? Jane didn't care about the cleverness and the
tricks - it was purely emotional for him. So if you treat this as an
intellectual exercise to match up all the clues, you're missing the
point and are bound to be disappointed.

People are also upset
that McAllister is a common guy. All I'm saying is, he SEEMS like a
common guy but you have no idea who he really is or what he can do. That
is precisely why McAllister thinks he's so great - he holds so much
power but everyone thinks he's a random sheriff and is none the wiser.

- Who was in the suit sipping tea and using the computers?
Why
couldn't it have been McAllister? You think Stiles knew how to use
computers? The whole point is that you don't know anything about
McAllister besides the fact that his day job is being a sheriff. And
about the suit - if they had put McAllister in a suit in the RJ reveal,
this wouldn't be an issue. So it says nothing about McAllister as a
character being unsuitable as RJ.

- Who was capable of brainwashing/mind controlling people?
This
was semi-explained at the beginning of season 6. The way the Blake
Association operates is, no one knows who's in charge. When a member
cop/judge/politician etc. needs something done, they presumably pass
along the word and it gets executed by another member, without question.
So it seems like "brain washing" but it's really just unquestioned
obedience, like any other crime organization. A lot of the "impossible"
things RJ did become a lot more plausible if you have a whole state-wide
organization to carry out hits for you.

- He is MAR?
No idea, could be McAllisteR. Could be McAllister Redjohn. But again, people are just
mad because this clue wasn't explained. It doesn't make McAllister a
bad candidate for RJ.

- How does Stiles know about him?
I'm
sure there are BA members in Visualize (given how messed up the BA
members and Visualize members are), and they have to confess everything.
Based on previous clues, we also know RJ was a farmhand on a Visualize
farm at some point. By the way, this doesn't necessarily mean Stiles
knows who RJ is. He would just know about how the BA operates.

- Why no Visualize backstory?
Again, this is a choice by the showrunners. IT DOESN'T MAKE MCALLISTER A BAD RJ. IT JUST MEANS THE SHOWRUNNERS SUCK.

- Why would he spare Lisbon?
It's a game and RJ thought he was in control. Killing Lisbon might send Jane into a fit of rage, which would make him unpredictable.

- Kira Tinsley
RJ may not have killed Kira Tinsley - as you all have
pointed out, no smiley face, just strangulation, and the shadowy figure had hair. All you know about
Kira's killer is he was BA by the 3 dots. No one said he was RJ, they
just assumed, but maybe the whole purpose of Kira Tinsley was to give
them the 3 dot clue and bring them one step closer.

- How did RJ "kill" Kristina Frye?
Just
hypnotized her into believing she was dead. Maybe RJ did it, maybe
someone else in BA. We don't know. You are all assuming RJ is this
ubermensch with many talents, when it could just be different people in
the BA assigned to carry out different pieces of dirty work. Yes, the
entire BA thing is an unsatisfying cop-out, but again, it does not make McAllister an unsuitable RJ.

- Why did RJ chant Tiger Tiger if he was running it?
Again, it's a game. McAllister said in the chapel - it's a game, you played it well, you were fun and challenging. Of course he would drop some clues here and there, knowing that Jane would never find him.

- How did the sheriff run around killing people?
Again, BA does the dirty work of other BA members.

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What a fiasco, again again and again, this show is
the real turd ... Bruno Heller, u are a bloody stinky cunt and so the rest of writers (untalented losers by the way) ... what kind of job will this people get now that it's all over and done ? ... probably soaps and teen's movies ... again I must say : being a part of
"The Mentalist" will be a curse for 'em all ... they're all rotten ... careers' over ... a shame for Simon and Robin but hey ... they are both making tons of money doing this shite ... they should have had some input, ya know ? ... but NO ... while real fans felt ripped off by this crap they just moved on business as usual ... but hey, that's what they all are into it for ... $$$,$$$ ... shame on you actors(?) who can't even portray a real love and passionate relation ... bring back Lorelei and Mashburn, Rigsby and Van Pelt for a swingers party !!!! ... and yeah ... swear I won't watch this crap again.

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One thing we often forget it WHY Red john was called Red John?
Because he or she only killed Red Haired women early on in his serial killer career.
So i wish the show would explain why a serial killer broke his pattern?
Seemed like when Rigsby met Grace the red haired killings stopped.
But seriously tho, Rj went from a strict by the rules serial killer using black tape n all to just killing anyone any which way.
Like there was more than 1 red john!
And why all the sudden at the end Red John forgot how to slit necks?
Brett Partridge and Kira Tinsley? If Rj killed them right then Jane would of never found Macalister.
It takes a second to slit a neck too so no excuses!

The show needs to let us know if Red John was really a serial killer or just the Ba leader trying to cover up things.
Bc near the end Rj was not a serial killer at all, no smileys no black tape or specific victims, just random killings of people in his way.

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