Who is Red John?

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I want to follow up on my other posting that Haffner is Red John.  I cant stand this fool.  He is such a sneaky slime bag.  He was just faking being fooled by Jane.  He just sat there all smug during his lecture from Bertram, probably laughing inside at the scam he was pulling.  I also think Haffner is banging Lisbon.  I mean how many times has she gotten laid in 5 seasons?  Once?  He created this whole story about her having great investigative prowess and putting that to use in his PI firm.  The only reason Lisbon solves any cases is because of Jane.  F'ng Haffner is so sleazy.  Not that we all havent conned women into bed but Haffner is just a dirtball.  My hate for his character grows by the minute.  I hate the network for making me wait until Sept. to finally see what I already know.  I am guessing Haffner(REd John) will start to kill off the other members of Janes list one by one.  Haffner obviously has the physical goods to kill at will un-challenged. The bad news is I will have to spend several months waiting for Haffner to be jailed or killed.  I am guessing he will just escape and leave the country.  I FUCKING HATE HAFFNER!

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I believe 3 organizations want to find Red John and in order to do that they need their people close to Patrick Jane and with this theory I rule out some of the suspects.

The Department of Homeland Security wants Red John.  I believe he is part of a much larger matter of National Secuity.  This rules out Robert Kirkland, who is on Red Johns trail.

Visualize also wants to find one of their former familiars, Red John.  This rules out Bret Stiles and Ray Haffner.  I believe Visualize knows who Red John is.  I believe that Visualize through Ray Haffner would know if Gale Bertram or Brett Partridge was Red John.  This could also possibly rule out Reede Smith.  

The Government of CA also wants Red John.  I think this could also rule out Gale Bertram and Ray Haffner as the CBI is using these assclowns to get close to Patrick Jane and find Red John.

Sheriff Mcallister is left.  He had a very small part and I just get a bad feeling about him.  It wouldnt be hard to fill in the blanks and have him as Red John.  Reede Smith could also be Red John, but he could be ruled out as I am sure Bret Stiles knows Red John by description and he probably knows who is working the case.

3 other observations.  When Jane came face to face with the masked Red John, I have to believe the actor playing Red John was a woman but the movements Red John made.  They were feminine.  I cant quite describe it well, but I just get the vibe that it was a chick and not a guy.  Now this doesnt mean that Red John could be a woman, only that a woman actor may have been used.  I also believe that Grace Van Pelt has some connection to this whole plot.  At best she has been converted to a Visualize member, at worst she is some sort of Red John follower.  Thirdly I just dont but that the list of 7 contains the real Red John.  I believe there is some sort of technicality that Heller is using to try to fool the viewers.

Finally I had a really strong feeling that Sheriff Hardy was bad from the second I saw him.  This turned out to be right.  The only other characters I get almost as bad of a feeling about is McAllister and Van Pelt.


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Just Wanted to put it out there anyone remember Dr Roysten, the hypnotist. he was in season 1 episode 18 russet potatoes, he has the charming look, he also has the ability to read people abit similar to the way patrick jane does. I just find it intresting however im not sure if he could be red john, i dont think red john is patrick jane!

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