Who is Red John?

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I don't care who red john is, it's been 6 years and i have nothing but good memories for this show, every monday i couldn't wait to get out of my crappy school to download and watch new episodes.
So stop complaining that Bruno Heller wasted your time,you haven't even seen the red john episode, if you have a theory i'd be happy to read it. Otherwise, stop judging until you see the actual episode. 

Btw, the saddest moment in the show for me is S5E02 at the end, when Jane locked himself in the attic to drink the tea that gave him hallucination , so that he could see his daughter again. An imaginary daughter, i just hope he stabs red john or somehow makes him suffer. 
That's the only thing i would prefer , that he doesn't kill him with a gun like I saw in the promo. 

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I don't care who red john is, it's been 6 years and i have nothing but good memories for this show, every monday i couldn't wait to get out of my crappy school to download and watch new episodes.
So stop complaining that Bruno Heller wasted your time,you haven't even seen the red john episode, if you have a theory i'd be happy to read it. Otherwise, stop judging until you see the actual episode. 

Btw, the saddest moment in the show for me is S5E02 at the end, when Jane locked himself in the attic to drink the tea that gave him hallucination , so that he could see his daughter again. An imaginary daughter, i just hope he stabs red john or somehow makes him suffer. 
That's the only thing i would prefer , that he doesn't kill him with a gun like I saw in the promo. 

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First of all , i am perfectly aware that Mashburn isn't on the list. But the fact that he was casted as "red john" on imdb.com but afterwards removed , has to mean something (tho knowing Bruno Heller it's everything but the truth lol) .. maybe just another trick.  BUT, i still think that imdb.com posted who really is RJ but BH afterwards asked for it to be removed, because they already filmed 8th episode and it was just a normal update on imdb.  
 NOW, why would possibly Walter Mashburn be red john?(I posted this theory 6-7 months ago)
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1. Since every RJ accomplice said to Patrick Jane that they are alike, they have that same charisma and a way of carrying themselfs,he is not sneaky and the kind of a creepy guy who hides in his basement. He is a good manipulator , so why would you believe anything that Rosalind Harker said? She could be  :   a) lying ( and patrick jane couldn't detect it because he always looks at people's eyes to find out whether they're lying) 
 b) it maybe true ( because Walter Mashburn fits the description, so there's that.)
(And also, i know you guys loved his character on the show ( Waler Mashburn ) which means that he has that natural way of manipulating )

2.The mentalist is not just about Patrick Jane, but also about Red John , because he is "the mentalist" too, they are perfectly alike , they are the same. So it makes perfect sense that they would get along when they meet ( not like Brett Partridge whom Patrick Jane can't stand)

3. The fact that in 6 seasons, Walter was the only one who could seduce Lisbon to sleep with him, which : a) proves that PJ and RJ have the same taste and interests.     
b) Imagine the scenario where Lisbon has to admit to PJ that she slept with the person who killed his family. I mean, it writes itself ! lol

4. Alright , this is a big one. 
Walter Mashburn while having lunch with PJ and Lisbon said that his 3. wife was all into this mystical psychic stuff.  HIS THIRD WIFE WAS CHRISTINA FRYE. 
a) She knew and was sure 100% that his PJ's daughter never woke up when RJ killed her. 
b) When RJ kidnapped her, he didn't kill her because he liked her, she was his wife . He just hypnotized her.
( PJ likes lisbon , and so does RJ. Same goes for christina , PJ dated her for a while, THIS PROVES THAT THEY ARE 100% ALIKE.)
c) final episode of 2nd. season : last thing that RJ said to PJ when he was trapped : " christina would want me to send her love , she's very fond of you despite your differences" ( like he knows christina very well and their differences.)

5. Red John didn't know patrick when he killed his family . But now when he does, he doesn't want to hurt him anymore. In his own way, he loves patrick, he wants to be his friend. 
That's why the only two people over 6 seasons that RJ spared were lisbon and christina. ( 2 women that Patrick obviously liked )

I have ALOT more to share with you.

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First of all , i am perfectly aware that Mashburn isn't on the list. But the fact that he was casted as "red john" on imdb.com but afterwards removed , has to mean something (tho knowing Bruno Heller it's everything but the truth lol) .. maybe just another trick.  BUT, i still think that imdb.com posted who really is RJ but BH afterwards asked for it to be removed, because they already filmed 8th episode and it was just a normal update on imdb.  
 NOW, why would possibly Walter Mashburn be red john?(I posted this theory 6-7 months ago)
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1. Since every RJ accomplice said to Patrick Jane that they are alike, they have that same charisma and a way of carrying themselfs,he is not sneaky and the kind of a creepy guy who hides in his basement. He is a good manipulator , so why would you believe anything that Rosalind Harker said? She could be  :   a) lying ( and patrick jane couldn't detect it because he always looks at people's eyes to find out whether they're lying) 
 b) it maybe true ( because Walter Mashburn fits the description, so there's that.)
(And also, i know you guys loved his character on the show ( Waler Mashburn ) which means that he has that natural way of manipulating )

2.The mentalist is not just about Patrick Jane, but also about Red John , because he is "the mentalist" too, they are perfectly alike , they are the same. So it makes perfect sense that they would get along when they meet ( not like Brett Partridge whom Patrick Jane can't stand)

3. The fact that in 6 seasons, Walter was the only one who could seduce Lisbon to sleep with him, which : a) proves that PJ and RJ have the same taste and interests.     
b) Imagine the scenario where Lisbon has to admit to PJ that she slept with the person who killed his family. I mean, it writes itself ! lol

4. Alright , this is a big one. 
Walter Mashburn while having lunch with PJ and Lisbon said that his 3. wife was all into this mystical psychic stuff.  HIS THIRD WIFE WAS CHRISTINA FRYE. 
a) She knew and was sure 100% that his PJ's daughter never woke up when RJ killed her. 
b) When RJ kidnapped her, he didn't kill her because he liked her, she was his wife . He just hypnotized her.
( PJ likes lisbon , and so does RJ. Same goes for christina , PJ dated her for a while, THIS PROVES THAT THEY ARE 100% ALIKE.)
c) final episode of 2nd. season : last thing that RJ said to PJ when he was trapped : " christina would want me to send her love , she's very fond of you despite your differences" ( like he knows christina very well and their differences.)

5. Red John didn't know patrick when he killed his family . But now when he does, he doesn't want to hurt him anymore. In his own way, he loves patrick, he wants to be his friend. 
That's why the only two people over 6 seasons that RJ spared were lisbon and christina. ( 2 women that Patrick obviously liked )

I have ALOT more to share with you.

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(please excuse my english) Ok, first of all i'd like to say that this is my favorite show,and bruno heller is a genuis. but i think it got a little overwhelming for him to make red john cases as interesting as it used to be,because now he has to follow all the clues from 5 seasons .
as someone mentioned previously, i don't think it's a coincidence that suspects that are being elimanted from the show are the ones who had the most votes on this site, which means they keep track of this site.. 
and now they've turned it into a conspiracy show like prison break did with their last season ( "the company and scylla") ;which was fine for their show, but it doesn't fit for the mentalist.. 
I always imagined red john being just a one person, not that there is a company of some sorts, and now i think it's just unreal that patcik jane can take down a whole company. 
And if red john is a one person, i just don't think it is anybody from that list, it just doesn't fell right, and there is something strange about it, nobody from that list has that "look" that i imagined red john would have.. i know bruno said we can trust the list, but i still don't ....
The list suspends the suprise when we find out who is red john because we're already prepared for each scenario for the suspects,and that's why i think the list was a bad idea... 

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