Who is Red John?

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On top of the MANY unanswered questions, has anyone noticed that the information on the flash drive was not mentioned again? PLUS the one thing that I have been hung up on for a long time now is WHY.... BEFORE Red John began his game with Jane, did he really just wanna kill and torture women for kicks? The idea that the head of a massively powerful crime syndicate would sacrifice the entire thing, just to get his rocks off torturing women is absurd. I expected an actual motive worth seeing.

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First PLEASE stop looking at next weeks promo for clues. Just because it appaears as though Mcallister is not dead, does not make him Red John. Just because you THINK you hear Red John say "The Game is over I Win" does not mean that is even Red Johns voice. That wouold not be the first time Red John delivers a message to Jane through a messenger who uses the word "I" when referring to Red John. The network would not go all this way to give away such blatant revelations in the PROMO.....Now on to my theory.

My theory is more of a sit back and ask yourself a key question. WHAT IS RED JOHNS MOTIVE???? In the beginning Red John was depicted as a psychotic serial killer who just liked killing and torturing people, mostly women. As the series moved forward he slowly became a intelligent, manipulative, messianic figure complete with disciples, informants, and a network of followers. Now were supposed to believe he is the leader of a massive, very powerful criminal organization made up of law enforcement and judges??? Why would someone so smart, so powerful, so influential risk it all by getting his rocks off killing random women?

Either this show is completely jumped the shark and cannot reasonably connect season 6 to season 1 ORRR there is some other purpose for the Red John murders that carry some elaborate motive not yet explained.

Its my theory that Red John is NOT a member of the Blake Association, and in fact his motive is to expose it. Bosco and his team were not set up and killed by Red John, they were set up and killed by Blake Association operatives because the Red John investigation was leading them to Blame Association members. Every Red John murder including that of Janes family threatened to expose the association. Knowing that Jane would stop at nothing to catch him after murdering his family, Red John continued to lead Jane towards exposing the Blake Association and it worked. Bertram kept wanting to be there when Jane caught Red John not protect him, but because the Association wants Red John dead. Notice how the Blake Association members behave a little differently than Red John Disciples. Red John Disciples seem loyal, almost like they worship him, while Blake Association members are bribed or forced into membership. Finally I cant escape the biblical symbolism. Red Dragon, the picture of the last supper, a final showdown in a church, fire and brimstone. Does Red John view himself as a modern day Jesus revolting against a tyrannical regime complete with disciples? Even the episode after Red John has the word heaven in the title.

With this theory in mind I look at Stiles... If red John is NOT in the Blake Association, Stiles and Haffner were the 2 without a tattoos. Stiles for sure views himself as a Jesus type figure with his own disciples, close to death, who will return after his demise.





 

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The one thing I have never been able to wrap my head around is that Red John is Serial Killer. Here is this elaborate network of disciples that resembles a mafia family, yet the all powerful leader (Red John) risks it all because he gets his rocks off killing people, mostly women? Also why would the head of an elaborate crime network get so upset because a glory hunting con man like Jane goes on TV and says he is going to catch him? Finally after all this time how come not a single solitary disciple of Red John has ever exposed him? Eventually even the most ruthless Mafia Crime Bosses get turned in by someone close to them.

Here is my theory....... Red John is NOT a serial killer. He is the head of a secret society, and just like other Secret Societies the members work together to support each other. The murders appear to be the work of a psychotic Serial Killer when in reality they are the Societies way of proving if its members are loyal while also giving the society leverage over its members. In season 5 Red John asks PJ to kill Lisbon to prove his loyalty. I don't think the members themselves even know who Red John is. The pretense that Red Johns is a Serial Killer distracts law enforcement from investigating the Society.

I read an interview with Heller, where he was quoted as saying "what will disappoint fans the most is when they realize that Red John is just a man" That leads me to believe that Red John is the very mortal man, Bret Stiles and his motivation is to manipulate Jane into being his successor.

That theory answers my questions.... The killings are NOT the work of a serial Killer, they are all done by Tiger Tiger members proving their loyalty, while deflecting exposure away from the secret society. Jane was chosen by Red John to be his successor, and the reason his disciples never turn him in is because they don't even know who he is.

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