Who is Red John?

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Theory #13281 • By Topher77
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Just some more information gathered

Watch this video again of Lisbon finding Partridge. At the 2:46 mark you can see Partridge's left arm. There is no blood on it at all/ This can mean one of many things

a) RJ cut off his tattoo after attacking Lisbon

b) Someone in Tyger/Tyger cut it off so theri organization would stay secret. At this time no one knew of the tattoos.

c) Partridge never had his arm cut so the body in the morgue wasn't his. 

I'm not a fan of the Partridge being alive theory because it flies in the face of Cho, Lisbon, Jane and a host of others missing that it was not him and it was faked and before Lisbon went in the house, it would assume that she would be the one to find him and not another group of cops. BUT this is suspicious and might be the hidden clue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mYSnFVipYA

On a side note Partridge said in the first episodes that RJ drew the face with 3 fingers. I know a face is small but the person painting on Lisbons face is kind of doodling with a finger.

I have so many theories but not sure where they go

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Coffee Cup was bugged. All these years. All those talks with tea. Always taken into his lair. Once he decides he wants RJ to find him, he breaks the cup and bug. Read that and liked that.

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I'm starting to see Partridge trending again:

Listen, If Partridge was RJ the writers would be going against everything they said the ending would be about..neatly tying up RJ and not ending like shows like Dexter... and they would be jumping the shark.

Lisbon and Cho are the two most anal retentive cops about procedure. Yet both would had to have missed whether he was dead or whether it was him as a corpse. Then the cop or whomever showed up at the scene to announce Partridge was DOA would have to be part of a cover up, along with the ME. Jane told Lisbon in the hospital he was dead. The actor Plotnik said he was dead. Sorry, if they somehow suspend it all to make this guy reappear then they did the show no favors and have made it a joke.

The arm thing has a simple explanation. People are trying to tie that with the real time of when it happened. The reality is that it was probably cut off in Episode 1 by RJ or a Tyger/Tyger person. Why? Well at the time Tyger/Tyger wasn't outed by Jane. At that time, Jane hadn't had his meeting. At that time no one knew about the tatoos. So wouldn't it make sense to cut off the tatoo to hide the existence of a Tyger/Tyger group? Yes, logically it would in the sequence of events.

If I'm wrong, great, but it would be disappointing and take what reality was planted for 6 seasons.

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I hate to be wishy washy. Especially within 10 minutes of commenting on someones theory but that person's theory got me thinking...especially with how Heller and other writers have been toying with their words. Here is the writer from this last week about the explosion

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/mentalist-red-johns-identity-cbi-656671

Was it particularly difficult seemingly killing three Red John suspects -- Sheriff Tom McAllister, Visualize leader Bret Stiles and FBI agent Ray Haffner -- at the beginning of the hour? Was that always the plan?To be honest, that was one of the easiest things I had to come up with because Ken Woodruff wrote the episode before mine [titled "Fire and Brimstone"]. All I had to do was write, "Fade in. The house has blown up." I will say, fewer body parts made it in than were on-set that day, which was a personal regret of mine. I understand that you can't get everything out of life, but there was more than a foot there. Our show isn't normally that gory, but we wanted to make very clear that that was a human foot and there were dead bodies in there.

Now look at the italics and underlining. Is that sentence one that means..."some suspects were killed." Or does it just plainly say "there were dead bodies?" Because, as an earlier person mentioned, Jane could get cadavers and set up the whole thing. Everyone of those guys could be in on it...getting RJ. Jane finally had to go all out to beat RJ so he basically played his game and made the ruse so large that it would make RJ come out. 

Now, I will admit, I would normally call b.s. on these things because it makes it seem like the show jumped the shark. But the writers are perfectly riding the fence on what they give us. So yes those are body parts and yes they are dead bodies. But did it say those are those people's bodies? There were sheets all over the house covering furniture.

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Shawn Barlow

He is a psychic, he's known Jane since he was a kid, he has intimate knowledge of his family and "like being in his head to crush his happy memories." Plus look at the Barlow episode compared to the trailer for next week. Same voice, same ring on the hand. Same look walking into church. It's Barlow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBepaOq3Vrw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z77P7ebT0QI

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Theory #11130 • By Topher77
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Isolated thought on SHOTGUN BLAST. We aren't in the room. Any thoughts that maybe one of the suspects, once they got separated, took a lunge at Patrick and he shot them? My guess would be Stiles. Dying. May have relations to RJ. No tatoo. Just a thought....

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Why does everyone assume that the show will have nothing to do once they get RJ? I have read this multiple times.

The show has been on the air 6 seasons and only a handful have been completely RJ-centric. In fact my wife and I enjoy the ones where they are just solving a new weekly crime and Jane is messing with people's head. They are funny. Some of the best shows...NCIS, CSI, etc are weekly shows with new crimes. I know Jane's purposes was to help while finding RJ but now he has a work family that hopefully keeps going. JMO

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