Who is Red John?

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The real two faced genius, mastermind of this series and even a killer himself is JANE! I dont know how they will put it togather, but that would be the only explanation for our unanswered questions by now.

I will write all the evidence ill find about that. I dont care what Heller said. Of course he said yes, Jane is not RJ..it would be STUPID for him to even give hints of PJ being RJ in the interviews. If he would do such thing the show would be ruined( yes, people who think that the show is for now ruined i agree) The ooonly way to make it right is by making Jane RJ or something like that. Please no more dead  Brett and Brett and Haffner. 


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I know that i write theories often and that im changing my mind from day to day. Its just because im still hoping that BH wont disappoint us at the end, after
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Now i have a big WHAT IF :) What if the interviews, silly episodes, lack of RJ explanations, and the names of the episodes are made ON PURPOSE to make us angry and pissed of at the moment. Just to keep us disappointed and "betrayed" by Heller so we could all be SO REMARKABLY SURPRISED with the real real end. 

WHAT IF WE FANS ARE THE ONES GETTING PLAYED BY HELLER AND SIMON LIKE ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN PLAYED BY PATRICK JANE? :) after all this is our Jane ..right? When Jane had "the nerve breakdown" and insulted Luther i fell for it, Luther fell for it, you guys im sure fell for it, Lisbon fell for it! Maybe they are prepared for us to lose faith in the show and then BOOM!

If you look at the interviews with Heller and Baker they are just " We dont give a fuck about RJ anymore" Any normal writer would give us the explanations...after all that is all we are waiting for for 5 seasons right? Would they just give up and leave it all so messy and confusing? What if at the end there will be an interview with Heller and Baker and they will say to the fans we screwed you in Janes style :)) That would be great :))

Someone mentioned here that Heller made great shows till now, so what if this show ends up great aswell :)


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Once upon a time there was this show, it wasnt like any other and it was just like a great long movie that will never end. It was about a psychic whos family was killed by a serial killer.....it sounded like a great plot to me. Some action, mystery, romance, comedy....everything so harmonious in one single show...in one show you had it all. You had 5 thrilling seasons.....you could collect clues, "argue" with friends about who that famous killer might be, stay up so damm late just to watch it when it comes out....and now?IM not sure if the show HAS A PLOT ANYMORE! Wheres that good old show?Why is it like this? This is NOT the true mentalist spirit!

.....the promo of the episode My blue heaven looked to me like the introduction to the SIMS games....sad! And the upcoming episode...i wont even comment!

 The series started with RJ, almost all the episodes had something red inside them AND SHOULD END WITH SOMETHING RED INSIDE THEM...RJ is not someone who never existed and we need answers.

People, i dont know about you...but im hoping something red will turn up somewhere, because the end of RJ we got is NOT the end we want. The only reason im still watching it is because i am having that little hope inside me that RJ is alive somewhere or that PJ had a brain concusion and is in the hospital......

With RJ it started and with RJ it should end. If the show continues to be this ridiculous as it is now im quitting watching...if i want ridiculous ill watch Friends or something....the only way they could ever make this right if it is to make it all PJs  dream or make PJ RJ....that would explain alot of things...finally!

I m sad by the fact that Heller didnt know who was RJ going to be from the start...i hope im not that naive so ill believe that...im not...seriously. This is a whole project, it has to have a beginning and ending idea because without that it is not a project...it is crap.

Also, Simon giving his voice to RJ....why? Again, only logical explanation would be that he is RJ  at the end. Fans have compared voices of people, made videos i saw on youtube... why? To be screwed at the end?

Mcallister being RJ...good idea BUT it is made so LAME and without proof that only the thinking of that is disappointing!

And now bye bye, till the next disappointing episode of The Sims....i mean Mentalist, sorry ;)






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So now what? Even if it would be the ending of RJ, what will those 10 episodes left be about? Jane doing everything he didnt do fot the past six years?....in this episode we see Jane with his new haircut, in the episode behind we see him dancing with some chic...Whats the point of all of it? There is no more CBI so that means no more crimes to solve and apparently no more RJ.....what will this show be about now?...Jane taking down the tigers? Hope not!....Red John and PJ ARE this show and they cant run away from it. The second RJ dies the show is over and thats how it should be but it isnt for some "mysterious" reason .The only ending of this show should be after RJ is dead....ok,maybe just two episodes behind the Red John episode just to make a fine ending and thats it


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This will either end up being the best show with the best twist ever or it will end up with the sheriff really being RJ...yeah right...

Guys,

There is nothing to be explained in the RJ episode because is not the end of RJ and the Sheriff is not RJ.

Yes Heller said...than Baker said, than Partridges grandmother said...i understand that, but i dont believe it....not a word....neither from Heller, neither from Baker....neither from anyone...

Since the show is called The mentalist and most of the show was about all sorts of misleading s and very good acting and very good mental games from PJ.

Do you people really believe that after 5 seasons they will give us this as an end? 

I have my believes, and i know they said that PJ is not RJ (but how to trust them a word after this episode).

I wouldnt be surprised if in the next few episodes we discover that the sheriff was dead from the blast indeed and that entire episode was going on in PJ s head....or if the police comes to the murder scene of the sheriff and they find some totally different person that PJ killed in believe he is the sheriff and RJ....that would explain why PJ is gone for two years from the murder of "RJ" i mean why is he running away from everybody.

The gun under the bench and the pigeon coming from the jacket, the silly death of "RJ" and pleading for life, feeling sorry for killing PJ s family? No. Something is very wrong here. PJ was not afraid of dying and was not pleading for his life so that means he is colder blooded from RJ? 

What if they only find Bertrams body and the other guys body? What if anything from the part where Bertram was shot was just going on in PJ s head LIKE THE TIME HE DRANK THAT TEA and had hallucinations?If you dont remember in that episode PJ grabbed a rabbit from the pot and those figurines were people and the whole episode was like he was in wonderland . It is a silly and unexplained ending...and i dont think it will stay that way

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Where can we watch the episode Red John? Im from Europe! :( Please share a link! Thank you!

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Theory #11245 • By Theresa90
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My own list of  suspects...;)  

1. Danny Ruskin
2. Patrick Jane
3. Virgil Minelli
4. Wayne Rigsby
5. Kimball Cho
6. Elis Mars


1. Someone unespected, has the same voice as RJ if you compare them, carnival days...i could write till morning why...
2. Multiple personality disorder, making fun of the CBI meanwhille killing the Tigers and using the excuse of them being RJ....
3. Powerful man and could be in touch with the Tygers, Bosco died and he disappeared...etc,etc..
4. Wayne...just because he is so damm naive the whole series, he did nothing wrong one single episode...just standing there and being naive and somehow a perfect man...a man that any woman would fell for..., and we dont know much about his past and we do not know why was he divorced with his 1. wife...
5.Cho...just the opposite of Wayne, misterious, not smiling, just standing there, unsuspicious and at first an unsignifficant character, ....there is always a what if question for this man....
6. Just because he is creepy and because of the He is Mar thing....but i dont know...i doubt..

The famous list of 7 is a fraud..so it leads me to 2 possible conclusions...IF...!
1) RJ is PJ he made the list just to catch the Tygers to kill them in excuse (some of them)  being RJ, or RJ disciples....but the real deal why he gathered them was to kill his copycats, 
2) If RJ IS NOT PJ....I  REPEAT...IS NOT PJ!!!
He has to be someone outside the list of 7...definitely!.

STILL THERE IS A BIG QUESTION ABOUT TO BE ANSWERED! Who implanted the bomb there, I think PJ would not be so crazy (IF NOT RJ) to plant a bomb and kill half of the people from the list..including putting the life of his boss, and even LIsbons life at danger because when the bomb went off if she was a little faster she would get in the house and maybe die in the explosion...on the other hand, if it is RJ that planted the bomb....HELLO, now he is blowing up things now including himself ( IF THE LIST IS REAL) ?? Thats lame to me..;) SO AS FOR ME RJ IS SOMEONE NOT FROM THE LIST....

Anyway, I AM NOT SAYING THAT PJ is RJ....but remember, he can manipulate things out just the way he wants, so it will be likely that he manipulated us at one point, just so we can see RJ the way he wants us to see him....at the end i think we will all be manipulated and scratching our heads saying...i  fell for it....just like Lisbon did, Luther did, Laroche did, Rigsby did....and others...



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