this is all so stupid patrick has 5 suspects left what on earth is he
doing anyone with any brains left would gather round every suspect and
bring rosalind to feel their faces or hear their voices and its done
there you have it RJ revealed i dont know what patrick is doing .
This is not a theory.
I am a little mad because if i was writer of this awesome story i would plan ahead.
I would decide who RJ is before the first episode airs, I would decide how they will discover him and capture him and i would think about the first episode in which i would put him. I have a feeling that the writers changed their minds on who RJ is many times throughout the series. If you write this awesome series you better plan everything about the main story. I would develop RJs character more, he would have at least 5 appearances throughout the series. I would develop other characters ,like RJs suspects, more so they become suspicious to the viewers.I mean i will be satisfied with RJ only if he is brett partridge or if he is Walter Mashburn because they show up early in the series and they seem like sociopaths and they both seem like they have something dark around them. But then again they werent developed enough walter mashburn appeard only twice.I only wish that writers planned ahead and decided who RJ is straight away and that they developed him some more and other suspects too.
Ok if the list is really correct then we have two suspects. I will explain why others from the list cant be RJ.
First kirkland - if he was RJ lennon would recognise him and lorelie couldnt have known that he has shaken hands with jane
Smith cant be RJ because when he met Jane lorelei was in prison so she couldnt have known that he shook hands with Jane
Stiles isnt RJ because he wouldnt be described as a kid in 1988 because he was like 35-40 back then
Bertram isnt RJ because Smith told him it was his job to watch jane. RJ does not take orders so he isnt RJ
Partridge is dead ( if he isnt he is still a possible suspect )
you have haffner and sheriff thomas. I dont know if you guys remember this but Rosalind said that RJ likes to listen Bach so i would play Bach in front of haffner and sheriff thomas to see how they react.
i was hoping you guys can answer me a question. This is my favourite show but there is one thing i dont understand about the season 3 finale.So i get it how they figured it out that craig o laughlin was the guy who was connected to red john.But i dont get it why was thimoty carter at the mall at the same time as jane and bertram.
I think that most of your opinions are wrong. The list has to be wrong otherwise Jane would not smile when he saw that somebody broke into his room. ( kirklands guys )
we all know that scene with a toothpick when jane smiles when he sees that its broken. So that could only mean that he planned this to happen which means that he planted false list to fool red john. I doubt he would reveal his real suspects to red john so i think he kept it for himself and he has some kind of trick that he is going to pull later on in the series. So if the list is fake and no one from that list is red john that means that kirkland is only red johns helper. And if other guys from the list arent red john i would suspect mashburn because he is the smartest guy in the show aside the guys on the list.
Ok, ok ok calm down. Let's give me a shot. Here's my theory:
Patrick Jane was RJ before his wife and daughter murder. He helped the police as he said on television. But probably he was realizing that sooner or later the would have catch him. So in his madness he decided to create a masterplan in order to get inside the CBI and look for RJ.
He organised the RJ's friends in order to act as being RJ, so he can and only he can be able to catch RJ.
He ordered the murder of his family and then removed the order he gave via hypnosis because he knew that only a terrific thing like his wife and daughter murder could have given him the chance to properly enter inside the CBI.
He went to the asylum (in an episode you can clearly see him in his room and a smiley made by him on the wall).
So he brainwashed his memories. But then in the years he is chanced and there is no more trace of psicosis in his mind as the are no more the old memories.
He is unting down his old underlings, which are trying to fight the old RJ.
The new RJ is a group of people that only acting all together can reproduce the real RJ.
That's why the masked guy is Partridge, the money and the power are from Bertram and Washburn (who teases PJ on the feeling of being a murder).
They are independent now, they enjoy their work as "RJ" but the do want to play with real RJ.
In the end the actual RJ will tell PJ that everything started from him. That PJ one day realized that his hatred toward his father continued living on his family.
He loved them but the memories of his life with his father kept on coming.
That the smiley face is PJs face, because PJ wanted that the first thing the man\woman saw entering the room represents the outside of Jane's mind when he was in the circus and then they will be able to see the reality of the "inside" of Jane's mind.
Smiley ---> you look at me and I'm happy
Bodies ---> this is how I really feel, thorn into pieces
Now he is on the route to discover the leader of the RJ gang.
When Lorelei told PJ "they should have become friends in they very moment they shook hands" is because the actual leader is the "psychic" Ellis Mars.
Jane chose him because Mars is the perfect example of how Jane was before the change.
On the wall of the bathroom the write in reality I think was like this: "He is many".
Not only one and was a clue left by the second RJ to help PJ on regaining himself.
Rosalind met Partridge and Lorelei met Mars, and both of them entered in the life of RJ when PJ wasn't RJ anymore.
Ellis Mars is not a fool or a stupid, he impressed Jane when he told him "I can see the pain in your eyes" and in that moment he tried to show him who he was... but then the things went on another way.
Stiles told PJ that he would be surprised if he told him how many things he knows about "you and RJ" that sounded me like he referred at them as a couple of friends... or as they were the same person, but no more.
I'm not saying that PJ is RJ even if accusing him in the title.
I say he WAS RJ but he is no more. He can't have revenge as Carter said because was PJ to plan everything.
Ellis Mars is the actual RJ.