Who is Red John?

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SUDDENLY, I am thinking it's NOT Bret Stiles.  I just posted about the symbolism I found in 4 of the 7 suspects names:  BRET stiles, BRETT partridge, roBERT kirkland and Gale BERTram -- two BRETS and TWO BERTS -- as in "BRETON" -- a place in France known for King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table.   Also, Stiles=High place, Partridge=Noble, Bertram=Knight and Kirkland=Church Land.  BUT I am changing my theory that Bret Stiles is head of the Red John operation or that ANY of these guys have anything to do with RJ.  After looking at the name meanings of RJ's accomplices, I think it may be something much more personal and insidious than the cult leader and his followers. It may involve Grace Van Pelt as "Van Pelt" means son of one of who cures animal hide, a departure from the noble meanings of the other CBI names.  


We know that Red John used alias: ROY (RED HAIRED) TAGLIAFERRO (TO CUT or IRON CUTTER). 
Some of the other character names:
Rosalind (WEAK or TENDER) Harker (TO LISTEN)

Lorelei (SEA SIREN: who leads men to their deaths) Martins (WAR or God of War Mars)

Orville (SPEAR) Tanner (ONE WHO CURES ANIMAL HIDES)

Dumar or Du (TO BECOME) mar (to DAMAGE or SPOIL/also SEA, or WAR) Tanner -- changes to "Hardy" 
Rebecca (TO TIE OR ENSNARE) Anderson (A MALE)

Craig (CLIFF OR ROCKS) O'Laughlin (LAKE)  

Brenda (SWORD) Shettrick (not sure, but "she trick" is obvious)

Ron (RULER) Deutch (means: OF GERMAN)

Anthony (PRICELESS) Gupta (SECRET)

Miriam (BITTER) Gottlieb (LOVE OF GOD)

Julia (YOUTH) Howard (GUARDIAN)

Jason (HEALER OF) Lennon (LOVERS)

Timothy and Sally Carter (CARRIER OF GOODS)


Gabe (GOD'S ABLE BODIED ONE) Mancini (LEFT HANDED/SINISTER MAN)

Todd (A FOX) Johnson (son of JOHN, which means GRACE or MERCY OF GOD)

James (TO TAKE THE PLACE OF ANOTHER: SUPPLANTER) Panzer (german for: MILITARY TANK)

Malcom & Sandra Boatwright (BOATMAKER)

Linus (FLAX) Wagner (WAGON MAKER)

Erica (FLOWER) Flynn (RED)

Morgan (BRIGHT or SEA) Tolliver (english version of TALIAFERRO: or IRON CUTTER)

Tommy (TWIN) Volker (german for ARMY) 
Walter (RULER OF AN ARMY) Mashburn (by the MARSHLANDS) 

These names all seem to speak for themselves, either literally or ironically




Then there's the CBI people:


Madeleine (HIGH or TOWER) Hightower (DWELLER NEAR THE TOWER)

J. J. (what does this stand for? ) LaRoche (ROCK or DWELLER ON THE ROCK)

Patrick (NOBLEMAN) Jane (GIFT FROM GOD)

Theresa (TO HARVEST or TO REAP) Libson (PLACE NAME in PORTUGAL; LIB means both FREEDOM and GOD'S PROMISE)

Virgil (unknown) Minelli (NEAR A RIVER, IN SPAIN & PORTUGAL)
Kimball (WARRIOR CHIEF) Cho (BEAUTIFUL)

Wayne (CRAFTSMAN or WAGON MAKER) Rigsby (by a RIDGE)

Grace Van (SON OF) Pelt (ONE WHO CURES ANIMAL HIDES)

Susan (LILY or FLOWER) Darcy (DARK)

Alexa (DEFENDER OF MAN) Shultz (german for: OVERSEER or SHERIFF/HEAD OF VILLAGE)

Luther (german for: FAMOUS/ARMY) Wainwright (WAGON MAKER and REPAIRER)

Kristina (FOLLOWER OF CHRIST) Frye (FREE MAN)

CBI RON (RULER) -- no last name?
Stephen (CROWN) Hannigan (SON OF A LITTLE SLOW MAN)

I wonder if there's a connection between Van Pelt and Tanner, whose names have the exact same meaning


The 7 SUSPECTS:

Gale (GUST or WIND) Bertram (KNIGHT)

Robert (FAMOUS) Kirkland (CHURCH LAND)

Bret (from BRETON) STILES (HIGH)

Brett (from BRETON) PARTRIDGE (NOBLE)

Sheriff Thomas (TWIN) Mcallister (DEFENDER OF MAN)

Reede (RED) Smith (METAL WORKER)

Ray (PROTECTOR or GRACE) Haffner (german for POTTER)


Um, these names are all quite noble but for Reede Smith, which doesn't sound good at all.



There are definitely some repeating patterns in all of these names.  Hmm....

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There's an interesting pattern in 4 of the 7 suspect's names, likely symbolic:  the name "BRET" can be found in the names of: Brett Partridge and Bret Stiles; AND [Gale] BERTRAM and ROBERT [Kirkland] also rearrange to "Bret" as well.  Bret is a place name, meaning from "Breton" or "Brittany" -- a part of France that used to be a part of England; Breton meaning "a lesser or little Britain," as opposed to "Great Britain."  Breton is where the King Arthur legends purportedly took place.  Interestingly, STILES means ASCENDING [as in fame or high place]; the name BERTRAM means KNIGHT; PARTRIDGE means NOBLE; and KIRKLAND means CHURCH LAND.  KNIGHT, NOBLE, CHURCH LAND -- the writers are telling us something here.  And I think that the use of the word "BRET" in each name denotes their involvement in the "round table" of Visualize --- with each man and their individual name representing their specific role.  STILES is at the TOP of the "Visualize Church"; and I think that Bertram, Kirkland and Partridge are a few of his most trusted "NOBLE" "KNIGHTS" who protect the "CHURCH LAND" and carry out his vision.  Visualize is a highly organized, corporate stylized CULT -- and if you look at the history of cults, which I did via Google, PARTICULARLY of California or "CULTIFORNIA," it's creepily commonplace.  SO, while I think BRET STILES, the leader of the cult Visualize, is the mastermind behind Red John  --- I do not think RED JOHN is one specific person.  I think Red John is a creation comprised of many:  Bertram, Kirkland and Partridge, each fulfilling a role in the "kingdom."  We already know Kirkland is a corrupt follower of RJ but he hasn't the leverage or charisma to be in charge of so many people at once.  Bertram has more power, being in a great position to let many "pawns" into the CBI though I hate to think Bertram is a bad guy -- but somebody is hiring all these people who end up on the inside, though Bertram just doesn't seem to have the drive to be "recognized" in the way that someone like RJ does.  Also, I think it's safe to say "ghoul" Partridge is the one who actually does the gruesome killings [enjoying investigating his own handiwork, as others have mentioned].  Initially, I felt Partridge was RJ, because I felt he was the killer but it just wasn't enough that ONLY Partridge was RJ as he is just not that charismatic enough to have power over others.  Partridge is more of a follower.  Kirkland is a follower and Bertram is a follower.  The only leader is Stiles:  Stiles controls all of these people  and has created RED JOHN to be thought of as one individual person, a "serial killer" on the loose as a RED HERRING, to throw PJ and the CBI team off the trail of Visualize.  PJ has been looking for his one true nemesis, but I think he's going to learn that this enemy is in the faces of many.

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