Who is Red John?

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HOLY SHIT!!!! OH MY FUCKING GOOOOOOODDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!! I have just come to an epiphany. I am huge Bond fan. This last one Spectre kind of let me down. BUUUUUUUUTTTTT, then I had a FUCKING INCREDIBLE thought. (If you haven't seen the movie, PLEASE PLEEEEAASE SEE the movie so you can be mind BLOWN like me. All I'll say here (I'll elaborate more later) is that what they did with Christoph Waltz is EXAAAAACTLY what the Red John story. BUUUUUTTTTT, why am I not that mad, it's because they did TWO FUCKING THINGS DIFFERENTLY!!!!!! AND that makes HUUUGGE FUCKING DIFFRENCE.
I'm such a busy workaholic, so I won't have time to clarify in depth for a several days. I'm sure most you are probably thinking DA FUQ?!!, so if you still haven't seen the movie, PLEEEAASE, see it. Trust me it'll be worth it if only for getting legitimate, concrete closure on Red John. (Cant help with My Blue Heaven - White Orchids. Let's face it, even you Stoopkid, that was GAH-BAGE! Literally, that was just filler, escapist TV)
So, just give me till the end of the week, to share my article regarding the insanely coherent, connection between Waltz villian (won't say his name) and Red John. And The Blake Association (which I liked, I know you all hated) and SPECTRE. And some thoughts, realizations, and most importantly closure. So as I said, please go see the movie this week, so you can be part of the discussion and get closure like I have with Red John. Thank you all.

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The Leader of the White Walkers really reminded me of Red John from the Season 2 finale. His dignified walk step by step along with his calm and calculated appearance as well as the gut-wrenchig astonishing soundtrack. Movies and TV shows are only as good as their villians.


Quick Question: Red John told Jane in the season 4 finale that there is no heaven and hell. He said that when he dies he will not be punished for his deeds. But McAllister told Jane in 6x03 after killing the guy on the roof, "Now he's talking directly to Jesus." You think he was being sarcastic? That was he being sarcastic when Jane was easily destroying him in rock, paper,scissors. He was like a dog, Jane could predict his every move. That's a patsy or maybe a member of Red John's corporation. Not the mastermind himself.

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Alright, here's my list of tv shows that I've seen. I could write an essay about some of these shows but I simply don't have the time so I just put my overall opinion of it. As belle beautifully said, "At this point we can only win." (A statement of colossal depth that should be written in gold. Think about what it means and what it refers to)

*Game of Thrones - episode 9 of this season is called "The Dance of Dragons". nuff said *Mad Men - series finale this Sunday. it was truly one of a kind. (I like The Mentalist more but I'm sure it'll have a better series finale. One that is coherent with the original seasons) (not comparing, I know that they are apples and oranges, simply stating the obvious) *24 - favorite show of all time, started watching in 2002. Last 3 seasons were weak, but live another day  was great. Plus season 5 is arguably the greatest season of television in general.*Hannibal - can't wait till Stoopkid's reviews *Person of Interest -  hope season 5 isn't the last one.(it got a 13 episode order) There are no words to describe this show. *Da Vinci's Demons - lots of mystery and intrigue with good visuals and performances *Banshee - intense actions with an amazing performance from the lead actor *Vikings - very promising *The Good Wife - I know, I used to hate it to. The first 4 seasons weren't that good. Then came Season 5. *Fargo - beautiful, just beautiful *Sherlock - wish there was more. we get roughly 4.5 hours of content every 2 years *Fringe - it was truly something *Heroes - got worse every season but the mini-series this fall looks really good *Suits - last 2 seasons became a sex-drama, but hey, there's nothing really wrong with that. Plus the plot is still fresh and unpredictable *Nikita - awesome *Breaking Bad - what can I say, that has not been said about it *Better Call Saul -  by the time it has reached Season 5, it will probably be equivalent to Breaking Bad *Homeland - it has its ups and downs, but the realism is really attractive *House of Cards - so maddeningly great, redefines the word addiction *The Blacklist - Oh this one was a shock. used to laugh at this show, now it's GREAT! *Daredevil - better than Batman Begins and I'm like the biggest Batman fan of all time. Seriously, My God!, This came out of nowhere *Continuum - God, this show is amazing. Where do I even begin. Everything about this show is perfection. How they balance science fiction with politics grounded in realism is astounding. Most of the actors on that show is giving the performance of a lifetime *Arrow - amazing superhero-comic-book tv show. this season has been weak but overall this show is fantastic *The Flash - too much greatness. I'll just say this, "Some would say I'm the reverse" *Agents of Shield - started of slow, but now it's great *Agent Carter - WOW *Elementary - generic case to case formula but Johnny Lee Miller is brilliant along with Lucy Liu. I hear Moriarty will be back next season to spice things up a bit.*White Collar - used to hate it to, then I binged the whole show (Oceans 11, Catch me If you Can, Neal Caffrey in White Collar.  it ain't no Mentalist season 7. *Burn Notice - I mean its Michael Weston so come on *Psych - are the two lead actors aliens in disguise? How can you act so well together? *Monk - it's a jungle out there *Spartacus - BAD ASS *Prison Break - last few seasons weren't that good but season 1 was fantastic *The Americans - My god, can this show get any better *Gotham - somewhat entertaining, but it has a lot of Bruno Heller's stupidity. Every arch besides the Penguin's is flawed.*The Walking Dead - original seasons were good, now meh but I sense a promising future *The Following - panned, cancelled, vulgar, trash overall but the Ryan-Joe relationship was beyond captivating *Covert Affairs - Season 4 makes it worth the watch. along with some of season 3 and 5.*Lost - have good memories of the first few seasons *The Fall - superb acting along with a great serial killer arch *Rectify - wondrous slow, deep drama about life *Chuck - perfect blend of humor and action along with lovable characters *Alias - weren't the first 2 seasons good? *Supernatural - has a lot of bad episodes but it's worth it because of the two lead characters *Marco Polo - great netflix show *True Detective - the show has presidential acclaim, what more do you want? *Castle - at-least the relationship between the two leads is the by far the best relationship on television ever. unlike jane/lisbon. (forced due to pressure/cancellation) plus the 3xk arch  was more consistent in quality than Red John. granted red john was greater but 3xk left me satisfied and that's what elevates it AND what matters the most.*Dexter - like The Mentalist the few seasons sucked, the first 4... were beyond flawless *Smallville - a lot of the episodes were forgettable, but I'm glad I saw the whole thing because there were a few fabulous seasons. *shows that only had 1 season (Stalker - had a good serial killer arch while it lasted, Awake - great premise, flopped in the end, Almost Human - had so much potential, The White Queen, Camelot

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Hey, why don't we use this website as a forum for general media entertainment. I don't think it's healthy anymore to discuss Red John. Plus we've been doing it for the better part of a decade now. We can use this website to discuss other tv shows, movies, etc. Stuff that we like. Cuz I'm pretty sure The Mentalist is gone for good. (It's how all tv ahows are. When the series finale approaching they say, "Oh we'll do this, we'll return with this - but it never happens. Yes it did, with Breaking Bad, 24 and Heroes but for every one of them there are 10 who didn't. And those were different cases in so many ways. The hope for The Mentalist to return is sort of becoming like the hope of RJ related stuff to appear post 6x08 and we all know how that turned out.) Anyway, I think this is the best direction to take for this website. Cuz I see only 2 other options. 1.) It goes to waste like a junkyard. 2.) Or every now and then a comment might come, maybe by a Red John fan, or just a troll; which I think would be pathetic and depressing. We can obviously come back to Red John at times but constantly discussing and talking about it is seriously fatuous. Let me know what you think the usual way (green-agree/red-disagree).

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Just saw Banshee last night. The way Hood took down Chayton was literally how Jane took down McAllister. (with tid bit of gus fring also) For the first time in years, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2 FUCKING YEARS, do I slightly tiny bit understand Red John/McAllister. Well... Actually not, it was more like mixing timothy carter's demise with McAllister's and the gus fring finale. However, I do feeel a little different. Maybe Red John got sloppy towards the end of his rein. As we studied on this website before, Red John has changed his killing method numerous times throughout the course of the show. In the end, it's as simple as this. We have assume that 6x08 happened because if not, DA FUQ?. Red John hypnotized McAllister (BA member), and gave him to Jane so he could get closure and got away with his crimes. TELL ME ONE OTHER EXPLANATION THAT WORKS BESIDES THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Other then McAllister being Red John ofcourse, because in the end trolls and little ugly worms can say whatever the fuck their shitty hearts want, but that won't affect us cuz we're above such low-level scum. We (original fans) will never accept Red John as McAllister. EVEN SIMON FUCKING BAKER WASNT HAPPY WITH RED JOHN BEING MCALLISTER. HE WAS THE HAPPY WITH THE WAY HE KILLED HIM BUT NOT THE IDENTITY. As well as many reviewers from various websites. Many of you might have watched some videos of Americ on the Happy Cool youtube channel. Although he is arguably the #1 jisbon fan on earth, he just revealed in his final mentalist review/qa on youtube that he hated the red john reveal amd HATED THE SHIT OUT OF LAZARUS. He loved the story, the RED JOHN story, and thats why EVERYBODY AND I MEAN EVERY FUCKING PERSON KEPT WATCHING THE SHOW. IT WAS THE REASON WHY IT RECIEVED UNIVERSAL ACCLAIM THROUGHOUT ITS FIRST 5 SEASONS. IT WAS THE REASON WHY IT WAS WATCHED BY SEVERAL TENS OF MILLIONS EVERY WEEK AND RECIEVED WIDESPREAD APPLUAD FROM NUMEROUS ASSOCIATIONS. But it flopped in the end, arguably like most shows do so oh well. It is not anger of how Bruno Heller finished the Red John arc that brings me here anymore. It was at first. I'm sure everyone was angry. But you know what, I've gotten over that like other aspects of life. You eventually get over them. I've recently been coming here for the following reasons. 1.) admiration for a few commenters 2.) Appreciate this site in general 3.) its fun

However the time has come, for me at-least, that I must move on. This website and The Mentalist (the Red John part) has entertained me tremendously and gave me great enjoyment and pleasure. Now there are many other tv shows, movies and other forms of art to enjoy. As well as other adventures in life that each and every one of us should strive for and enjoy. I mean, I thought to myself, maybe I can still check this site occasionally and that'd be great but everything in life and I truly mean everything has a beginning and an end. And for me this is the end. Roll tide.

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I'd like to thank everybody who took part in sharing their vote in regards to the way Bruno Heller handled the end of Red John. We cracked about 60 votes which was way more than what I initially thought we'd get. Between Molly's survey and my poll I can definitively say we have roughly around 100 people (active on this website) who are still upset with how Red John's demise was done. Bruno Heller should be ashamed of what he's done. He created such an engaging show with an unprecedented level of quality and turned it into a cheese-fest like soap opera. This is unnacceptable. How many times do creators and actors from various television shows come out and tell the fans (all of them) how much they appreciate their support and say that. IT IS BECAUSE OF US AND PEOPLE LIKE US WHO ALLOWED THE MENTALIST TO GO ON FOR OVER 6 SEASONS. I HOPE THAT BRUNO HELLER HAS A MISERABLE CAREER AND NEVER PRODUCES A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT EVER AGAIN. I hope the last few episodes are Red John related. But unfortunately, it'll probably be more cases, Lazarus will be like a killer from the god-awful: The Following (generic guy trying to follow in the footsteps of a killer {in this case Red John}; rokkie amateur) and jisbon wedding. I hope I'm wrong because no matter how much harm has been done, the last 4 episodes could still fix a lot. Nonetheless, you are all true heroes and the best of fans: the dedicated and educated kind. Never will a show ever in the history and future of time ever have a fan-base as strong as the original Mentalist's fan base. Once again, thank you all for your votes and no matter how it all ends, it was a good journey for about two-thirds of it.

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Give this theory a plausible rating if you think The Mentalist flopped big time with Red John. (I'm sure we all do. But I want to see how many votes we can get.)
P.S. If you have any doubts, then watch the clip I have in the comment section.  Thank you all! 

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