Theories of RJResurrected (8)

If Heller is smart, he will make 'Lazarus' Red John himself, the next best thing, i.e. some kind of mentor figure out for revenge against Jane for killing his disciple, like Bret Stiles, who, like the fabled figure Lazarus, "shall return" from the dead. Bret Stiles fits PERFECTLY here. Unsolved murders, brainwashed followers, the promise of returning from the dead. Let Malcolm McDowell go out with the bang he deserves for what a splendid actor he is!

Anyone remember this scene?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyw2odg92B4

But let's be real here, how smart is Bruno Heller for making Mcallister Red John? How smart is he for only deciding who Red John would be right before the season six finale? Not very, to me. But he can still save his integrity. Give us what we want, Heller!

Don't get your hopes up, but this is how I would write it. Bret Stiles as Lazarus/Red John/Red John's mentor.

I swore I would never return here, but damn it guys...The disillusionment has gotten too bad.

Every time Heller writes a new episode, he is laughing at all of you under his breath. He scorns you in his interviews. He visits this site and has his jolly fill of guffaws watching some of you trying to come up with theories that, in fact, make much more sense than what's happening in the show right now. I completely understand how much better the show would become if its plots were actually coherent and Red John were truly still alive, but you are giving this sorry excuse for a man far more credit than he will ever deserve. Heller KNOWS the Jisbon fanbase is more than enough to keep the show running for another season and, more importantly in his mind, the money rolling in. Every hopeful on this site who believes Heller is capable of understanding how Red John should be alive right now -- based on his own fucking clues no less -- is in for another heartache as Heller flutters his heinous fingers across your heartstrings, only to rip them out and leave you to stare at the almighty finger between his ring and index.

As much as I hate to admit it, this show is about Jisbon now, not even "The Mentalist". Hell, Red John has shown more potential as a mentalist than Patrick Jane thus far has, having zombified Katrina, and hypnotized many others to do his bidding, not to mention the countless times he has fooled Jane, the purported mentalist of mentalists. As far as I'm concerned, Red John IS The Mentalist. Now, as you can see, without him this show has devolved into a cheesy romance soap wherein the crime drama component takes a backseat. It has come to a point where there is LITERALLY no "The Mentalist" without Red John. But Heller has said it himself, we're the minority and we don't matter. It's nice to post theories and all but guys, try not to give yourself false hope anymore. Heller is a bloody fucking vampire who feeds on this false hope. If nothing else, it might be better to discuss what the show could have been instead.

And with that, I resign myself from the fan base of this now godawful show. Out of all the ways Heller could possibly have fucked his franchise up, this is the worst. I used to have faith that this blunder was leading into the long con, or at the very least was a noticeable faux pas on Heller's part, but I guess this is what happens when you have a pool of aspiring writers and directors -- everyone gets their input but eventually things fall apart. Yes, this is a show about Patrick Jane...However, the second most important mechanic to the show is Red John. In the very first episode, after Jane, Red John is the enigma that gripped many of us. A long time ago I said "the death of Red John is the death of the show" and if Heller did not orchestrate the reveal very carefully, he will only hasten the poison that is eroding the series. I'm all fine and dandy with the change in the direction of the series, but only if the reveal is actually worthy of the six-odd years we've spent waiting. Here's the thing, though, it's not that I just 'disliked' the reveal personally, it's that the least amount of effort possible went into it.

The betrayal ISN'T that Mcallister is purportedly Red John. The betrayal is that Mcallister makes NO SENSE as Red John given the many clues that have been scattered throughout the course of the series. Mcallister does not fit as Red John at all. Seriously, name one significant clue that makes Mcallister Red John, and even if you can manage that, tell me how the other major clues fit into the equation to rightly point to Thomas Mcallister as Red John. Face it, Heller created this grand mythos only to throw it away in favor of money, which he in his many asinine states of mind believes he will gain more of if he appeases the Jisbon. But do you want to know something funny? He probably isn't even going to do that. Jisbon ain't happening. He is going to tease the prospect then completely disappoint that end of the fan base as well.

Heller needs to clarify why Mcallister is Red John, because he is the least likely suspect. It was puzzling to me why he was a suspect in the beginning at all. I will say this once more for the idiots who are saying to simply "move on". Anyone else on Jane's list would have fit Red John better than Mcallister, and this is not an opinion, based on the facts portrayed throughout the series, many will agree that this is fact, and Heller, for some reason or another, didn't appear to care who it was. He drew names from his british hat. The only reason why he isn't giving Red John any closure or references is simple; he can't. He fucked up too badly. So badly, he wants people to forget about it. I am happy to oblige.

OH WELL. At least there is BBC's Sherlock, a show with writers who actually fucking care about the quality of their series, albeit it takes them a few years to make each season, they make it worth it. I seriously warn the webmaster of this site to shut this down, it is time to move on, because even I can see no one in production gives a shit anymore. The best thing to do right not is boycott the series. Maybe I will watch the final few episodes one day just to see how it all ends before the series is cancelled, but all I hope now is that a competent writer purchases the rights to the series if Heller is willing to sell.

I do know one thing though, the next time I see Heller's name on any creative endeavor, I will immediately walk away from it if only for the betterment of my health. You would all do well to follow this resignation. Save yourselves some heartache, it all ends now.

...The fact is, mainstream shows like this are made for the 99%, not the 1% who can piece obscure details together and say "there is more to this story". Unfortunately...Just head to the Facebook fanpage. There are far more people concerned with Jisbon than anything to do with answers about Red John. CBS (The Mentalist's main network) isn't exactly known for breaking this mold and taking risks. I will even go so far as to say CBS to blame as well because they pressured Heller into finishing Red John's arc ASAP.

Unlike some people on this site, however, I can let go and I am actually beginning to accept that money is their first -- and possibly only -- priority. Heller and Co. will bend over backward to please the '99%', or in other words, the majority, even if it picks the continuity of the story apart. The majority do not care about Red John or the many holes left behind in light of the horrible reveal. Yes, thousands of people frequent this site and leave their marks of frustration over this fiasco, but alas we do not constitute the majority of the viewership. It is a sad truth. All I'm saying is, if The Mentalist were a series of novels instead, they would never be published if Heller pulled this stunt.

I do want to suggest a solution, however. In the past, Red John, even though he hates "cheap imitations" of his work, he has allowed his disciples to pretend to be him or give away important information if he knows they will end up dead shortly after. Ideally, then, the real Red John would still be out there and has managed to frame Mcallister so that he will take the fall for his crimes (Thomas Mcallister IS still part of the Blake Association after all, if he were a pawn he could easily be manipulated). Now...We all know how this is a "New Beginning". Specifically, for Jane, at least as far as we've been able to see until now. Wouldn't it be awesome if this were also a "New Beginning" for Red John? Instead of trying to get Jane to befriend him...Red John instead goes straight to the source within the FBI. We have long known that Red John has had a desire to be close to Jane, hence his undying attempts at establishing a "friendship". He would accomplish this in the form of Marcus Pike. The funny thing is...Regardless, we know now that Jane believes he has killed Red John, the single most important thing to him in his life is Lisbon. There is no getting around that! It would be an incredible victory for Red John to not only get close to Jane, but also take away the most important part of his life from him...for a second time! Ultimately, if this were the case it would make SOME sense as to why Lisbon was not only spared in the first episode of the season, but was completely unharmed, when even Kristina Frye was at least left in a catatonic state. Which I still think is nonsense btw. This is the way I would write it. But guys, let's look at this rationally. Obviously, Jisbon is going to happen eventually, and in order for that to come about, something has to be done about Marcus Pike. I just hope it turns out to be something akin to what I described.

Love it or hate it, even though it's not the greatest idea it would still be a far, far, FAR better turn out than the BS we're getting right now, you gotta admit.

All I know is, Red John's theme was modified and played at the very end of Violets.

He is mar. If no one on the list or no one else, Marcus Pike.

Here's to hoping for the season finale.

So, the recently released title of this season's finale marked 'Blue Bird' has destroyed any semblance of hope of a RJ return for fans who are looking for a decent storyline...Or has it?

When Jane used a pigeon against Mcallister, I always thought it was quite fitting. Birds have always been a central theme of William Blake's poems and paintings. It is for this and this reason alone that I am still holding hope for the finale...But I must say, after this, I'm done, and quite frankly, lest this once riveting series caves into the demographic of single thirty year old women who would rather see Jisbon over any kind of appreciable story, the show is better off being cancelled and never having a seventh season of this atrocity.

One thing I want to point out is that, now, what greater purpose does Jane have? He doesn't care about justice, he made that clear in season 1 and 2.  He's only ever agreed to gruel through cases that were child's play to him at the CBI to bring him closer Red John. He made it clear to Abbot that solving crimes is just a game to him and forced him to succumb to his terms should he return to the USA...But now what is he fighting for with the FBI, his freedom? That's it? He could have just stayed in South America and enjoyed life like he wanted. So, then, Patrick is just going to go on solving cases with the same old formula with hardly any difficulty whatsoever? Here is a writing tip, Heller and Co.: Patrick Jane needs a challenge. Red John is the only character to ever satisfy this challenge. Stop these idiotic polls and do what is best for the story, like any self respecting writer would do.

I am personally riding on two hopes here, the cryptic code left behind on the obscure USB Bertram found (why the hell haven't they looked into that yet? you'd think they would have right after nabbing "red john"), and the fact that Blue Bird should have something to do with William Blake and hence, Red John. With a title like that, Brett Partridge would definitely fit into the equation. I honestly don't care who RJ turns out to be, just that they will snap out of this spell and fix what's broken.

Yesterday's episode was a nice change in pace. I'm going to say this firmly, however; Not everything needs to be compared to Red John, which in itself brings up a good point. There has never been a villain in The Mentalist quite like Red John, and there will never be one that can truly go toe to toe with the character, so don't expect them to. This episode was great on its own, it showed that the FBI is not helpless with or without Jane, which is important to note, and it portrayed a scenario where Jane's foolproof plan is finally tarnished by someone other than Red John. Plus, it gives the series a sense of continuity by following through with Heibach's previous threats to Jane, something it needed after the first few blunders with the 'New Beginning'.

That said, changing the direction of a show after such a controversial and climactic point in a series so quickly carries with it a huge, huge, huge risk in television, and Heller knows this.

One tweet from Karl Sonnenberg (cbi karl) essentially says it all: "Production meeting time for 622. Written by Bruno Heller, directed by Chris Long. Not giving out the title on this one. #TheMentalist". Come on now, its -obvious- that the title of the finale has some allusion to red or has red in it, just as the many holes in the RJ = Mcallister thing are obvious as well. You really think Heller doesn't realize not one clue, not one piece of the RJ puzzle fits Mcallister? He knows it because this was all planned. This third of season six is nothing more than an opportunity to experiment with the show. Clearly, it isn't working, so they are resorting to the formula that does work; Red John.

One thing that is interesting to note is, at the very, very end of white as the driven snow, Jane goes on to say something along the lines of "you can't see what I really feel". I don't know about you, but that phrase really stuck out to me. Is Patrick Jane really playing the long con to draw out the real Red John? Or, is he naive and in for the second greatest shock of his life? If we are using reason here, then I am and have been convinced that the real Red John is still alive, based on all the information we have in previous seasons. If he is returning, I would personally want them to choose between Partridge, Haffner, and Stiles, since they are the only ones who fit the character at this point. My bet is on Haffner.