Theories of Micharjuna (5)

TOLLIVER

Let's settle this.

I watched all the flaming going on the other day concerning the relationship between the names "Tolliver" and "Tagliaferro".

d666q:
You are CORRECT in your theory. The English "Tolliver" IS a variant of the Italian "Tagliaferro". Please see the following:
http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=tagliaferro
http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=tolliver

This isn't a "spin".
This isn't a deduction of logic, or even false logic.

I considered flaming your "critic", but I have decided not to.
We'll just let him get angry on his own.

He accuses people of using false-logic, and backs up his own logic by using lots of three-syllable words, external references, and... false-logic. (?)

I've seen a few posts about the colors in the names of the episodes. I was going to comment on a recent post, but I've decided to post my thoughts in a new one.

All of the episodes in the Red John Saga (which cannot be over) contained the word RED, or a synonym or variation thereof. If this is a "New Jane" and a "New Life", then we can presume that there is a new story beginning. When "My Blue Heaven" aired, I figured that the episode titles would contain BLUE, or bluish variation... But they do not.

We can then suppose that, as we have seen BLUE and GREEN, and next WHITE, that there is a trend that the colors in the episode names will change every week... that is, until we get back to RED!!!

We have already seen:
BLUE
GREEN

We will soon see:
WHITE

If we are talking about basic colors, then we should expect to see:
YELLOW
PURPLE
BLACK
ORANGE

It will cycle back to:
RED

That is 8 colors... All of the colors in a box of Crayola Crayons.

Episode 16 WILL be RED!!!!

RED JOHN WOULD HAVE....

McAllister is NOT Red John.

When Patrick Jane finally caught and subdued him:

Red John would have been happy that Jane finally caught him.
Red John would have wanted him to KNOW, to UNDERSTAND, that he was Red John.
Red John would have mocked him and taunted him.
Red John would have laughed maniacally.
Red John would have said all he could to hurt him as much as possible. 
Red John would have expired with a smile on his face... A big, Red smile.

I need help
I am in denial.
Why am I having so much trouble accepting this?
I do not accept it.
I cannot accept it.

Am I going to meet with disappointment for the next 13 Sundays?

I admit that "My Blue Heaven" was well done. I am not satisfied. But it was well done.

However, I could not help but continue to look for clues that lead to Red John (or rather, lead to something that will lead to Red John.)

The cinematography was interesting, Did anyone notice the 'haziness' that was present in every scene with Jane, even when he was back in the U.S.? Patrick and Kim mentioned 'Dream Worlds' while strolling on the shore.

I knew something was up with Kim. The scene after Patrick was beat up, as well as the following morning, were reminiscent of Jane's first meeting with Lorelei. I think it was intentional.

What was up with Cho's inaudible snicker as Jane was walking away? Was it "he's fu**ed, the poor bastard", or "gosh! It's so nice to see Jane after all this time".

I think Patrick is still lying comatose in a hospital bed, following the explosion at his house. If that were the case, everything since is figment, including Abbott. I love his character. Even though he is a douchebag, he is a great character. You hate him so much that you love him.

Are they going to close this website down, given that it is now superfluous?

I didn't see CBI Ron in this episode.

Let me say first that I do NOT necessarily think that Bret Stiles is Red John; I just think that he is one of the only characters, or perhaps THE only character, who is as intelligent as Patrick Jane, which I am sure that most of us assumed to be one of Red John's traits. The traits of a man and his nemesis, though not always equal, perfectly balance the others'. Sheriff McAllister can not even come close to being comparable to Jane, nor comparable to the picture of Red John that has been painted for us over these years.

(A brief side-note: Stiles may not be dead as presumed; after all, McAllister wasn't.)

I am upset and appalled and utterly disappointed by this most recent episode, as most of you are. Perhaps I am not saying anything that hasn't already been said, but I will give my two cents anyway. I am in denial. I refuse to accept that the Red John Saga could possibly end this way. S06E08 absolutely MUST be a hoax. 

The end to this is something which should COMPLETELY BLOW OUR MINDS!! Like in Fight Club, when The Narrator realizes that he is Tyler Durden... something you did not anticipate, but which makes PERFECT sense, in retrospect.

Why, of ALL Mentalist episodes, was THIS particular one accidentally "leaked"?

There are so many unanswered questions (there was a GREAT list posted a few days ago, but I cannot find it) which can in NO WAY be tied to McAllister; he is an insignificant character who has had little to no effect on the show or on the character of Patrick Jane. Even when he was revealed last season as one of Jane's suspects, I was so confused. There are a lot of characters who make good Red John suspects; if I had made a list of character who I thought were NOT Red John, McAllister would have been on that list, assuming I would have even remembered who he was before the end of last season. He wasn't just a bad choice to be Red John... he was the WORST choice.

I am going to state now that I believe that S06E08 is a hoax, as well as the promo for S06E09.

Here are some viable suspects (not from Jane's list) and my take on them. They are just summaries, and I will give both pros and cons:

1) Patrick Jane: This made a lot of sense for a long time, but I have begun to think otherwise, mostly because of the conversation in the limo, and Lorelei's reaction to Red John's words. I had thought for a long time that Jane is Red John but does not know it, because of his psychosis, and that Jane's interactions with Red John were mental fabrications, visual and aural hallucinations. (For example, maybe his encounter with Timothy Carter was just a delusion. After all, a link between Carter and Red John was never established; the whole idea was just abandoned)

2) CBI Ron: He would be the perfect fit for Red John. Though he is always there, he is an undeveloped character; we know absolutely nothing about him, so we can NOT logically deduce that he is NOT Red John (sorry for the double negative). Why has he remained on the show for so long if he holds no significance? The only issue, however, is that simple fact; if they decide to develop his character this season, it will become obvious to the viewers, and the only way this should be done is for us to find out when Jane finds out.

3) Bertram:  Is he dead? Just because we saw him get shot doesn't mean that he is dead, nor that he actually got shot. Why did Cordero even shoot him? There was no purpose. It could have been a ruse, which went awry after Jane unexpectedly shot Cordero. Bertram is an excellent choice for Red John in many respects. However, he was always a follower trying to be a leader, hoping people don't see him for the empty-suited bureaucrat he is.

4) Someone in Lisbon's unit: Any of them is a possibility, though I think Grace is the most unlikely. Perhaps Rigsby's dimwittedness is just a front? (He HAD to know that he was giving up Jane's location to Abbott.) Cho is still very mysterious, and Lisbon is someone, the only one really, who could know Jane's movements at all times. And what better choice than the only person he loves and trusts? However, we see that Lisbon does really love him; Cho is too noble; Rigsby is too dopey to be faking it.

5) Stiles: Sorry, I have to pose this, even though he is on Jane's list. Furthermore, I think he is the ONLY one on the list that could possibly be Red John. Intelligence. Charisma. Power. Influence. Affluence. Stiles is far too smart and far too important to be killed in so random an act of violence. I love Visualize episodes, almost as much as Red John episodes. Red John is connected somehow to Visualize. But perhaps Stiles was meant to be so obviously possible that it simply cannot be him.

Oh well. We will see on Sunday. Will Jane really be strolling on the beach and dancing with children? Check out the promo on YouTube... it is so ridiculous. The only thing more stupid than S06E08 is that promo. I think that if you could compress the 42 minutes of stupidity of S06E08 into 30 seconds, you would get that promo.