Who is Red John?

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Unfortunately the episode is legit. We thought heller to be 9/10 in terms of IQ however he is on the somwhere near a 0.2

The apparant clues, which we thought were too silly to be observed while writing out theories are actually major ones.

1. The pigeons. Pigeon phobia. Most of us thought it was a herring because it was funny with McAllister going all ooohhaaaaahhaa with the sight of a pigeon.

2. Skin being scraped off Patridge's left arm revealing he was the member of tiger tiger.
Lisbon "What does this mean"
Patrick "What do you think it means" Read "Duh! Partridge was a part of tyger tyger and he has access to change DNA of RJ with an old dead body, which he did before he died, when McAllister had the foresight that Patrick would call a meeting with all the 7"


But here is what they missed.

In a recent interview Baker said that Red John no longer wants to kill Patrick, he actually loves patrick, he wants him to be his friend, so he puts himself in jeopardy and reveals himself"

There was no sign of this feeling in the episode. McAllister comes and wants to shoot Patrick and frame Bertram as Red John.

And also, why would Red John who does not want anyone to mock him, who things so highly of himself like a demi god, that no one else can take his position, why would this Red John want to frame someone else as Red John and let someone else even be called as Red John?

Every theory now has this word for sure. Dissapointed. Heller told us we would be dissapointed when Red John was revealed, but c'mon man, that would be because it was someone obvious, but now we are dissapointed because Red John was screaming like a hyena giving birth!

Red John was a step ahead of patrick, even better than him and the whole series was a huge build up with little pieces on how Patrick will outsmart Red John for six seasons.

Now if we had never seen McAllister and he had appeared only in season 6, still it would not have changed episode 8. Because they haven't used anything from the past 5 seasons.

And McAllister was a nobody in the show till the list was out, and Red John being Waldo? Like Heller was going to pull a magic trick out of his hat for the reveal? These are the expectations that Heller and his writers set during the course of the show. Why do you set expectations if you know you can't match even 2% of it.

Heller in his previous interview said all questions would be answered. He also mocked LOST saying nobody explained what the polar bears are doing, but the mentalist will answer all questions.

There are a whole list of questions that you guys have posted that have not been answered.

Honestly we still have that hope that this episode is a fake, like how we have a hope when our favourite team which is losing will score the winning goal, the winning base, the winning run in extra time!

I don't think they will answer any of the questions because the next episode has a two year leap.

They build up Red John with bold set ups like his contacts, his disciples, him being so smart to get the list, but they never thought how all this would come together.

They gave us clues for which they never thought of a reveal.

If it was a show which did not run on suspense it would not have mattered. They show's central plot for which we stuck for 6 years was the red john reveal, and they went wrong in the one place they shouldn't have had.

Let us say BOB KIRKLAND was one of the best, even Partridge hell even Betram. McAllister (Xender Berkeley) just could not pull of RED JOHN. He is a great actor but not RED JOHN.

Well atleast we have written enough theories for us to start our own MENTALIST.

And when you do, please don't involve pigeons.

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Quick question guys


How come they never explained the gunshot in Patricks's house?

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Theory #11893 • By Hattrick_Jane
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Bruno Heller's favourite singer is Bob Marley

That is why he intends McAllister to be Red john, so that after killing him, Patrick can sing

"I shot the Sheriff"

But finding out from the promo that McAllister s RJ is a dissapointment. More so McAllister as RJ is a dissapointment, not that he can't pull off the role, but heller made us believe he is someone who is very intrinsic to the plot and not someone like the Sheriff who appears lesser times on the series than Cho's smile.


From the Promo this is RJ aka McAllster. Link courtesy Theory #11884
 
 http://o1311.hizliresim.com/1h/l/unkm2.jpg

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Theory #11659 • By Hattrick_Jane
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First of all I think Lorelei Martins is Red John, because of 'He is Mar'

This is the Theory http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/11648

Let us discuss one Major Point.

According to TV Guide spoiler of 6.08 'Red John', in the next episode

1. Lisbon is a small time police officer
2. Rigsby and Van Pelt have a detective agency
3. Cho is in the CBI
and most importantly
4. Patrick is a 'Wanted Man' after killing Red John

Patrick kills Red John and is a wanted man, which means he is not able to prove whoever he killed to be Red John.

I think that is one majoy clue, we need to identify that one person whom if Patrick kills he is going to jail and that will be Red John. What say? 


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We have covered Red John to be the 7 suspects, Jane himself, the CBI gang, Mashburn, Red John is gay, the pigeon flying in the barn 

The only theory left, is that RED JOHN is Loerlei Martins

"He is Mar" can be He is Martins, RJ probably had sex change or Renfrew has never heard of Wren and Martin whatever, it's fiction after all.

Bruno Heller has said, that Red John is the Keyser Soze (of the Usual Suspect Kevin Spacey fame) of Mentalist.

What if Loreloi was Red John afterall? And she built up this fake image of Red John.

Red John loves Jane more than himself now, according to one of the theories that I read.

Lorelei Martins is coming back in Great Red Dragon.

If this is not crazy enough, then please read my other theory

http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/11591

It's crazy! But isn't Mentalist about being crazy. What say?

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http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/521344/20131112/mentalist-season-6-spoilers-red-john-visualize.htm#.U... This says that The Great Red Dragon airs on November 24th!

Isn't it supposed to air next week?

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Did you think of this?

Guys I just posted that it is Bob and not Michael who is Red John

Here is an interesting insight that Khalid left in the comments. He says

"you remember when Kirkland kidnap Patrick Jane to ask him about the list in season 6 ep.4 .. Kirkland said: "I am willing to kill 7 people to get the job done" ... how did he know that Patrick real list has 7 number of suspects !!!!! ..... Kirkland stole the fake list which has many suspects ... more than 7 ...... how did he know ?????????????? it is strange right ???"

One more thing is why did he Kill Lenon? I mean when Lenon knew connections to RJ? Just because he wanted to avenge his brother? Common...He would have kidnapped Lenon and tortured him because Lenon knew connections to Red John.

It can't be Michael as I have explained http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/9984 

Also the only people I can imagine pulling off Red John voice are Partridge and Bob Kirkland. I can't imagine Haffner, Bertram, Stiles, Smith or McAllister with that voice. It would be funny them doing it, and if it is funny sounding it would get away from the seriousness of Red John and how he uses this voice for his Red John image that he takes very seriously

I also love the theories here, because I'm sure even Heller wouldn't have thought of such connections.

I think it is Bob Kirkland, what do you think? Please let me know 

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