Red john and visualize are very closely related .
Either they are in cahoots or sworn enemies.

Think about rjs followers.
They all had tramadic experiences (usually caused by rj) that brought about a "new awakening" inside of them.
They think that their loss was a blessing becuase it opened their EYES and created their new self.
That sounds very visualize like.
Also, very odd that brett styles was being hunted by the fbi for murders 30 years ago all at the same exact time patrick was closing in on the BA.

Either red john has his own cult that is rival to visualize . A more hardcore version of visualize so to speak.
Or red john is in visualize and its all the same cult.

Either way i think we are gonna delve into the visualize world very soon.
We havent heard a peep about them or their new leader whomever it may be .