One of the most debated things besides who is red john is what it said in blood in that hotel room so please go back and watch it when they were sitting in the middle of all the protesters they keep showing a man holding a sign that resembles bob Kirkland written in red color just like blood it says meat is murder they keep showing this guy and sign over and over maybe Renfrew was trying to let them know he was there not by his name but by the saying on the sign. Well it's the first time I've ever heard it everyone tries to say its a name so we will see.