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Walter Mashburn

Walter Mashburn
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Remember when Walter Mashburn and Theresa hooked up? 

RJ is quite manipulative so I think somehow he managed to get Theresa to fall in love with him and to  join up with team R.J.

Just a thought after the last episode. Jane's true suspect is not on the list

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Anyone who's disappointed about Mashburn's absence in the list? Some names in that list are just mediocre, like sheriff McAllister and the FBI agent Smith.




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Don't loose hope my friend i also wanted walter to be at leat considered
to be rj...if in fact what you say is true that heller said that rj is
on the list...then by all means that may be true..you just have to pay
attention..i don't know which list you or heller were talking about,the
30 suspects or the 7 suspects...in my theory anybody not on the 7
suspects list could be rj...patrick planted the evidence found in the
episode were he used the toothpick..so kirkland fell into patrick's
trap...so he knows whoever broke into the room would tell rj..is only a
matter of time befores he finds out it was kirkland and i bet he get
kills next season so jane looks to be one step ahead of rj.also remember
that jane has been been burning rj files a few times so he kept only
what he wanted to keep and burned the important ones in order to throw
some people off. so in other words i don't believe rj is on the 7
suspects and patrick knows it...jane planted this evidence thinking that
rj would find it somehow..so rj is going to start killing more people
more often..WHY??...because he is feeling very confident right about
now,,,because he thinks jane doesn't suspect him because he is not on
the list when in fact jane already knows that but rj doesn't know so
jane is  in fact is one step ahead....

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oh come on people wake up and smell the coffe!!...RJ is not on the list and patrick knows it...is not 6:oo o'clock news that patrick has not been able to trust anybody especially not lisbon,notice how ever since season 5 started lisbon has become more and more suspicious asking about the list,her behavior changed and all the " i have dark secrets" she said a couple of times.something's up with her...i'm not saying rj is her ..something is fishy....HELLO!!...remember that patrick has been burning rj files since what?..season 3?..also remember the toothpick?..patrick only had with him the files and clues the he wanted to be found..he knew that eventually somebody would break into the room..so it makes sense that kirkland found what patrick wanted him to find...patrick may have already had his list of suspects from before they broke into the room which makes you think he may in fact be one step ahead of rj and rj doesn't know it and if he tells lisbon this would jeopardized his master plan....i'm looking at you walter.....I'M LOOKING AT YOU !..i haven't lost hope yet..if they were able to bring laurelie from the dead what makes you think rj is going to be in the list?season 6 all bets are off...men or women...one of my theories kinda came true..i posted a few weeks ago that i thought somebody dead might not be dead but i thought it was sam bosco being alive...still waiting on my other theories...lisbon being related to patrick and vanpelt being related to rj...we'll see.

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My opinion - No one is going to get a tape measure out and measure anyone's height. Nor will they reference anyone's imdb page for height. Walter Mashburn being "too tall" is moot. The description of RJ was made before a lot of these actors were cast for their episodes - and I think once they found their perfect Red John actor, height went out the window. He is my #1 pick - I think it would play out fabulously.

I also think it is worth mentioning that our previous encounters with Red John, whether his voice, his arm, his silhouette, we're likely done by random actors - not the actor who will turn out to be Red John. Much like in the movie Scream. So making any comparisons there is likely worthless.

I want to think age - as established in the Red Barn episode - is a clue we can rely on. That eliminates a few suspects. But with all the acts by RJ followers, I'm not sure what to believe. And I guess that's half the fun!

It's amazing in rewatching episodes how many clues you can find for just about all of the suspects! And there are some great theories here as well!


My list of 7:

Walter Mashburn
Tommy Volker
Ellis Mars
Dean Harken
Virgil Minelli
Max Winter
Brett Partridge (hope it's not him - was torn between him and Haffner to round out my list)


One more thought to add...I feel like having a connection to Lisbon would be something RJ would get a kick out of. Anytime a character has shown a special interest in her, it has been a red flag for me.

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First of all i would like to say that i really believe RJ is a man, so i dismiss all women as suspects ...
Those theories don't make sense to me.
Second i think that RJ is one of the 30 man list and no one like "PJ father" or "Lisbon's brother" or even "Van Pelt's father" ...
I would also like to point out two things:
First - Lorelai said: "...you haven't become lifelong friends..." so with only this sentence i dismiss Cho and Rigsby but keep suspects like Stiles and Mashburn ... They get along with jane and some might even say they are is friends but they aren't, for sure, his lifelong friends.
Second - Everyone follows what Rosalind Harker said as if it is a certainty ... I would only like to say a couple things ... First ... It's easy for anyone to get fatter, slimmer, shave, get a beard or a moustache, let his hair get a little longer or even shave his head ... Besides ... From what i observed, and i asked a lot a people, even some blind people ... Describe someone's height isn't simple or even clear ... Most of people fail by a margin of error of 2/3 inches ... that margin gets even bigger with taller people ... Blind people make the same mistakes ... And their margin of error, from what i observed, is a inch or two higher ... So 3/4 (sometimes even 5) inches ... Besides ... Everyone can "look" taller or shorter ... With some simple things as bending the knees all the time or having a hump ... The fact we can all see the bending knees and the hump but no one can tell for sure how much taller a person is based on that ...
A person can also "look" taller if uses some objects in the shoes or socks ...

My list for the final 7 in last name's alphabetical order (and this is the list i think they will make, not my top 7 suspects ... i will put some of the most popular motives for the suspicion on these characters):

1 - Dr. Royston Daniels: he has the power, money, connections, charismatic personality and the could have the network ... He is a ladiesman and fits rosalind harker's description ... He also has that hypnotic mambo jambo :D

2 - Ray Haffner: member of visualise and with that could have the network and connections ... Has some power and a bit of money ... I can see him having the necessary charisma ... Basic description fits rosalind harker's ... 

3 - Robert Kirkland: His basic description fits rosalind harker's, he has the power, connections and could've the money ... He has a very suspicious behavior and he has been following jane's investigation ...

4 - Ellis Mars: the whole "tyger, tyger" thing ... Mars is the red planet ... He also acts like a psychic, the elliston farm thing and at last the "he is mar" anagram to Ellis Mars ... 

5 - Walter Mashburn: He has the money, power, connections, the whole Mashburn/Lisbon/Jane triangle would be a great drama, has charisma and also is a bit of a ladiesman ... His general description fits with rosalind harker's except his height ... He is playful (the way he keeps joking about being suspect and next time really being the killer), he reads people well, he seems like a hard worker (from some things mentioned before - in other posts - i think he worked hard for his money), he has a troubled past, seems to like the danger (the way he gets into a car with jane, not knowing jane at all, and lets jane drive blindfolded) ... Seems to have a dark side, knows a little of espionage (the way he turns his competitor employee), and seems to think everyone could get away with murder as long as the murder was well planned.

6 - Brett Partridge: has the knowledge of forensics, investigates RJ's copycats crime scenes, basic description fits with rosalind harker's, has a macabre look, most of you seem to think his voice and RJ's are similar (it really doesn't seem that similar to me, but i guess it's a matter of opinion), has some cbi connections ...

7 - Max Winter: seems to have the money, the power, the connections, the charisma and the thing with the gun he gives jane would be a whole new simbolism ... also fits the basic description of rosalind harker ...

All these suspects seem to be old enough and young enough to be RJ ...
Also like Tolman Bunting (mainly for his brain) and Osvaldo Ardilles as suspects ...

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