Haffner is alive. Nobody wanted him dead .
When haffner grabs jane shoulders all red john like he warns him to stop. Then haffner tries to scare lisbon telling her to stop.
Stop what exactly!
Jane pissed off some really important people right ?
But Haffner isn't in tiger tiger BA? So he is not talking about them and obviously speaking about visualize .
But why by uncovering the BA is patrick pissing off visualize .

*****brett styles is on his way out (in haffners mind when he said watch out )
Who is next in line at visualize ??
Jason cooper ? Can never trust that guy.
Or did styles pull a quick move and name his son his successor ?
Who is his son?
Mayne haffner ? Maybe red john?
The bottom line is , visualize needs a new leader and its going to be interesting to see how it plays out considering they haven't mentioned them yet.

Click plausible if you think: there will be flashbacks this season

Click unlikely if you think: there won't be flashbacks this season

I think Red John is dead and you all are a bunch of loons.
The reveal of Red John was the lamest scene in TV history.
Bruno Hellar is killing this show off so that he can concentrate on his new show Gotham.
Mentalist is over n done.

Anyone else find it odd that jane is now telling people that he has psycic powers .
I know he was playing the girl but he is alwaus insistant that psycics are fake .

Something to think about i guess.

New list of RED JOHN SUSPECTS:
(In no patricular order)

1. Patrick Jane
-very unlikely but nothing is impossible.
2. Brett Styles
-if macalister survived it may be possible everyone did.
3. Ray Haffner
- same scenerio as styles
4. Patrick Janes Father
-hardly mentioned but recently patrick said he was a "showman"
Also know as an evil man.
5. Wayne Rigsby
-the Keyser Soze theory.
6. Grace Van Pelt
-very unlikely but could be an accoplice
Refer to pilot episode for her disdain for patrick.
7. Gabe Nyland
-unlikely but has a lot of "pull" being Loutennant Goveneor
8. Kristina Freye
-could of hypnotized her followers to do her bidding.
9. Jason Cooper
-Visualizes number 2 guy. Creepy and has power.
10. Brett Partridge
-Possibly faked his death



Possible Accomplices :
Kim fisher
-odd character , weird towards patrick in a love/hate kinda way
Jason Wylie
-cho's new friend. Weird he just so happen to be looking for jane on a whim.
Also weird how that move quickly put him in the bullpen.

I don't think they would jeopardise DVD box set sales by making episode 8 the last Red John episode.

I am probably being paranoid, since I really don't want Red John to be dead.  Until I started reading people's theories on this website, I never actually looked into who Red John would be.  But I decided to look at something.   Since episode 13 on this season has yet to be named, or it hasn't been released, I looked at what other episodes the Randy Zisk directed.  One was when Jane hallucinated, another one where he lost his memory from almost being drowned, and a few other ones that have to do with Loriel and Red John in general.  It may have nothing to do with anything, but just thought I would bring it up to stir the pot a little bit.  Don't bitch at me and say I am stupid.  Yes, I am probably completely wrong, but I just thought it was interesting.  :)