You are all in denial. The denial that you think you know who Red John is. I'm holding my hands up and saying I haven't got a clue. 
Ron, pigeons Bertram these are all red herrings. Partridge is a red herring too. I have no idea who it is now I just hope it's not judge manchester or the bald guy in the first episode like people are suggesting. I still don't trust Smith believe it or not.

I will say one thing, the guy in the promo is not someone I recognize. it's not gale or partridge. It actually reminds me of bosco the most. He has no hair but doesn't look like the sheriff either. I honestly haven't a clue but with all these FAKE RED JOHNS, PATRICK IS STARTING TO BECOME A SERIAL KILLER HIMSELF. How many people has he killed?

I have officially jumped on the Partridge bandwagon as in I wish it were him, not that I believe it is, I don't. He is just a red Herring thrown in to confuse us

I'm giving up guessing now but will continue to read all these wonderful theories. 

P.S can we trust the tv guide article about the park. I am guessing we can?

Sorry if this entry is a duplicate --the page kept crashing. Anyway...After seeing the the 6x08 promo, I cannot get Sam Bosco out of my head. Yes, I know he supposedly died in s2, but since everyone is trying to resurrect BP, why not? ;p Seriously though --he is a cop, so there's the T-T connection, has the right creepy voice, had a major thing for Lisbon (hence why she got to live), had a contentious relationship with Jane...(and they've shaken hands after all!). Wkg on the inside unbeknownst to even his own assistant and minion Rebecca, so he had some accomplices posing as him to deal with her.

I know it's a reach, but in the promo, the guy in the church walking away from Patrick...who were supposed to think is Bertram? It struck me me how much he looked and was built like Bosco. Just throwing it out there. Besides, am tired of BP being the only potential "zombie" suspect..hehe.

6x08 Promo:  http://youtu.be/qQVYz7_8qeE

Check out RJ's voice 13secs into the promo, its certainly not Bertram or Partridge.  In fact it does not seems to be the voice of anyone on the list.

please open your minds to some realities here:

1- there is no f..... way they would show us RJ in the promo. Forget about Mc Allister.

2- Brett is dead. If he is not, then Cho is a total idiot not to check his face (if he didn't) and Heller is playing cheap tricks.

3- the person who jane killed (or not) in the church is:

    a-) bertram: patrick says "now you're asking for mercy after all you've done?" First of all, RJ doesn't beg for mercy otherwise the whole RJ character design goes to trash. Secondly, if it was RJ he was shooting in the church, PJ would have said something more specific than ".... all you've done (something like "did you show mercy before killing my baby or something") meaning what he did being a TT guy and his attempt to kill PJ (which is failed) and the bartender (which is succeeded).

    b-) Barlow: I don't have a specific reason but he is connected to RJ and might show up at such a sequence because he clearly has a grudge against Jane clan. Maybe he's one of the supporters of RJ and Barlow is facing PJ as an introductory reveal (plus his voice may match with the guy in the church when spoken out loud. Check it on youtube, you'll find it).

    c-) Judge Manchester: He might be the head of TT which puts him in a position to say "It's over, I've won. You're trapped here or sorts. Plus, having 1-2 scenes in total at the show doesn't make him either Waldo or Kaiser Soze. By the way, his voice resembles to the church guy too. But the thing is, the guy in the church is not RJ. 

4- Clearly some other person (either Stiles or Sheriff) has survived the blast but being Red John is another thing. He might just be trying to save his ass just like Bertram is.

5- Even though I kinda like theories about Bob/Mike Kirkland duality, there's no such a solid theory posted to keep all ends clear so far.

6- Zombie Bosco theories are really creepy but we have seen him shot to death, plus his body afterwards.

7- CBI Ron is the only one who we can identify as Waldo or Kaiser Soze but I doubt that he can pull off the RJ character unless he has some great acting talent which we have never seen so far. (The guy turned out to be Kaiser Soze in Usual Suspects was also great playing the crippled guy). If I had seen that acting light in this guy, I would bet on noone else because as an actor, he doesn't have a bright past and he can totally be flattered with being revealed as RJ (as the undisclosed actor has shared his feelings this way) plus the other things above. Plus, having a round beard DOES help conceal your face to be easily readable / fully characteristic.

8- Stiles being RJ would be a total insult to us as the audience. Everyone knows that including Heller.

9- Dr. Linus is supposed to be in prison and we'd have heard if he broke out or was released.

10- PJ is supposed to kill RJ at the park not in the church. This is a known fact. 

After all, what do I have in hand? Almost nothing. I am no different than I was at the end of S01E01. Nevertheless, keep an eye on what I say above...

Random thoughts:
- All that episode did for me is confirm Bertram and Smith are the least likely of the 7 to be RJ.

- at this point I can't see any possible plot line for any of the 7 suspects being RJ that is even 10% as mind blowing as the Timothy Carter phone call in the cafe scene in 3x23...
Honestly, i'm so disappointed with the idea of Rj being any one of the 7 suspects that i'd accept just about anything else....I think I'd almost accept an ending that Timothy Carter really was RJ all along over Bertram, Mcallister, haffner or smith.

- I've swung from partridge to "not on the list at all" tonight,
The cliches that would attach to partridge being explained as RJ increased to a tipping point. I don't buy that cho wouldn't pick up on a body swap.

- I'll reserve final judgement (on the entire series The Mentalist) until next week. The shows plot lines and janes trickery normally have more layers than an onion and Red John plot lines have been solid until season 6. I hope it's been 7 episodes of misdirection with Jane knowing the real RJ the whole time... With subtle clues of RJs identity, not phobias and whistling.
Here's hoping for a big return to form and an ending worthy of the first 5 seasons of the show!

If its judge Manchester that would just be awesome!!! Not sure if people will agree with me on this but I think it would be epic

Judge Manchester is Red John.

Bruno Heller said you can trust the list but did not say which list. Judge Manchester is on the list of suspects that could be on the list of seven. He is on there.

This was the list Heller was on about.


Why I choose Judge Manchester? Jane dropped his mug by purpose and gave the plate and tapped the FBI leaders arm so he could get that peice of paper. The peice of paper signed by a judge giving them permission to close the CBI. That judge is Judge Manchester which Jane soon finds out. It's Judge Manchester who is calling the shots. He is Red John.

Also Judge Manchester sure as hell looks like the Red John we see in next weeks promo.