Ok, so I just finished watching the leaked episode. And I'm having mixed feelings about it. 

SPOILERS! (DUH)
Regarding the whole "It's a fake episode thing" everyone seems to be going at right now, I don't think it's a fake. But rather a rough cut of what the actual episode is going to look like. Some scenes that were in this rough cut might make it into the actual episode, some scenes might not make it or might be shown from a different camera angle or whatever (I don't work in the filming buissness so I wouldn't know, just guessing). 

There are a few things that they aren't going to change though. Like McAllister being Red John for example. That's happening, unfortunate for anyone who didn't want that, but that's just how it is. For me, the fact that McAllister is RJ isn't what dissapointed me. Nor was it the acting in the episode. It didn't seem very different at all to me. Alot of people might have percieved the acting as bad since the quality of the colours, picture, the sound and the music was very bad. But that's just because this isn't the finished episode, but a rough cut for the press to watch. 
 
Anyway, what was off-putting to me is that this episode and the plot behind it seemed a bit rushed. I might remember it wrong, but didn't Jane enter the church alone from the back (where eventually McAllister enters) without Bertram being there? Wasn't there a guy in a red turtleneck as well as a woman praying in the back? Maybe that woman was the batshit-crazy knife-lady... But the guy in the turtleneck? WHERE THE FUCK DID HE GO? I had high hopes that it was Mashburn, who was my favorite non-list  suspect and who I'd hoped would end up as RJ. I really hope the whole church scene with Bertram doesn't happen. This seems likely since his body is gone in the promo.

As for the chase scene, the whole 911-call and the eventual killing scene, it wasn't THAT bad. Except for the fact that McAllister was able to run for like 2km with a fucking bullet in his gut. The 911-call I actually liked, the scene where Jane strangles him aswell. The call shows that RJ is desperate, and scared. Just like anyone else. What the fuck would you do if someone came at you wanting to kill you? If he would've just let Patrick kill him, that would mean surrendering and thus losing the 10-year long mindgame between him and Jane.And surrendering is definetly not something RJ would do.The 911-call was just a  try to escape, which he knew wouldn't work. But he was shot and scared, probably losing A LOT of blood. It was simply a desperate situation which called for a desperate(and maybe a bit stupid) solution that didn''t work.

 The strangle scene I liked, and I didn't think Xander Berkeley's acting was bad. On the contrary, he showed real fear in his eyes. Which is perfect IMO. Simon Baker was great as well. He showed that ice cold side to Jane which we saw in the s3 finale. Which I think we all see as the best episode. 

A lot of questions were answered, and a lot of questions weren't answered. But it's not even half the season. I'm sure we'll get our answers soon enough.

Summary: The episode was a bit of a letdown. Not because McAllister is RJ, but because it seemed so rushed. It definetly didn't live up to the hype. But I'm not that dissapointed, and I don't think you should be either. WE GOT OUR RED JOHN, and I personally thought he was great (when it comes to the acting part atleast).

Ok, so I just finished watching the leaked episode. And I'm having mixed feelings about it. 

SPOILERS! (DUH)
Regarding the whole "It's a fake episode thing" everyone seems to be going at right now, I don't think it's a fake. But rather a rough cut of what the actual episode is going to look like. Some scenes that were in this rough cut might make it into the actual episode, some scenes might not make it or might be shown from a different camera angle or whatever (I don't work in the filming buissness so I wouldn't know, just guessing). 

There are a few things that they aren't going to change though. Like McAllister being Red John for example. That's happening, unfortunate for anyone who didn't want that, but that's just how it is. For me, the fact that McAllister is RJ isn't what dissapointed me. Nor was it the acting in the episode. It didn't seem very different at all to me. Alot of people might have percieved the acting as bad since the quality of the colours, picture, the sound and the music was very bad. But that's just because this isn't the finished episode, but a rough cut for the press to watch. 
 
Anyway, what was off-putting to me is that this episode and the plot behind it seemed a bit rushed. I might remember it wrong, but didn't Jane enter the church alone from the back (where eventually McAllister enters) without Bertram being there? Wasn't there a guy in a red turtleneck as well as a woman praying in the back? Maybe that woman was the batshit-crazy knife-lady... But the guy in the turtleneck? WHERE THE FUCK DID HE GO? I had high hopes that it was Mashburn, who was my favorite non-list  suspect and who I'd hoped would end up as RJ. I really hope the whole church scene with Bertram doesn't happen. This seems likely since his body is gone in the promo.

As for the chase scene, the whole 911-call and the eventual killing scene, it wasn't THAT bad. Except for the fact that McAllister was able to run for like 2km with a fucking bullet in his gut. The 911-call I actually liked, the scene where Jane strangles him aswell. The call shows that RJ is desperate, and scared. Just like anyone else. What the fuck would you do if someone came at you wanting to kill you? If he would've just let Patrick kill him, that would mean surrendering and thus losing the 10-year long mindgame between him and Jane.And surrendering is definetly not something RJ would do.The 911-call was just a  try to escape, which he knew wouldn't work. But he was shot and scared, probably losing A LOT of blood. It was simply a desperate situation which called for a desperate(and maybe a bit stupid) solution that didn''t work.

 The strangle scene I liked, and I didn't think Xander Berkeley's acting was bad. On the contrary, he showed real fear in his eyes. Which is perfect IMO. Simon Baker was great as well. He showed that ice cold side to Jane which we saw in the s3 finale. Which I think we all see as the best episode. 

A lot of questions were answered, and a lot of questions weren't answered. But it's not even half the season. I'm sure we'll get our answers soon enough.

Summary: The episode was a bit of a letdown. Not because McAllister is RJ, but because it seemed so rushed. It definetly didn't live up to the hype. But I'm not that dissapointed, and I don't think you should be either. WE GOT OUR RED JOHN, and I personally thought he was great (when it comes to the acting part atleast).

Ok, so I just finished watching the leaked episode. And I'm having mixed feelings about it. 

SPOILERS! (DUH)
Regarding the whole "It's a fake episode thing" everyone seems to be going at right now, I don't think it's a fake. But rather a rough cut of what the actual episode is going to look like. Some scenes that were in this rough cut might make it into the actual episode, some scenes might not make it or might be shown from a different camera angle or whatever (I don't work in the filming buissness so I wouldn't know, just guessing). 

There are a few things that they aren't going to change though. Like McAllister being Red John for example. That's happening, unfortunate for anyone who didn't want that, but that's just how it is. For me, the fact that McAllister is RJ isn't what dissapointed me. Nor was it the acting in the episode. It didn't seem very different at all to me. Alot of people might have percieved the acting as bad since the quality of the colours, picture, the sound and the music was very bad. But that's just because this isn't the finished episode, but a rough cut for the press to watch. 
 
Anyway, what was off-putting to me is that this episode and the plot behind it seemed a bit rushed. I might remember it wrong, but didn't Jane enter the church alone from the back (where eventually McAllister enters) without Bertram being there? Wasn't there a guy in a red turtleneck as well as a woman praying in the back? Maybe that woman was the batshit-crazy knife-lady... But the guy in the turtleneck? WHERE THE FUCK DID HE GO? I had high hopes that it was Mashburn, who was my favorite non-list  suspect and who I'd hoped would end up as RJ. I really hope the whole church scene with Bertram doesn't happen. This seems likely since his body is gone in the promo.

As for the chase scene, the whole 911-call and the eventual killing scene, it wasn't THAT bad. Except for the fact that McAllister was able to run for like 2km with a fucking bullet in his gut. The 911-call I actually liked, the scene where Jane strangles him aswell. The call shows that RJ is desperate, and scared. Just like anyone else. What the fuck would you do if someone came at you wanting to kill you? If he would've just let Patrick kill him, that would mean surrendering and thus losing the 10-year long mindgame between him and Jane.And surrendering is definetly not something RJ would do.The 911-call was just a  try to escape, which he knew wouldn't work. But he was shot and scared, probably losing A LOT of blood. It was simply a desperate situation which called for a desperate(and maybe a bit stupid) solution that didn''t work.

 The strangle scene I liked, and I didn't think Xander Berkeley's acting was bad. On the contrary, he showed real fear in his eyes. Which is perfect IMO. Simon Baker was great as well. He showed that ice cold side to Jane which we saw in the s3 finale. Which I think we all see as the best episode. 

A lot of questions were answered, and a lot of questions weren't answered. But it's not even half the season. I'm sure we'll get our answers soon enough.

Summary: The episode was a bit of a letdown. Not because McAllister is RJ, but because it seemed so rushed. It definetly didn't live up to the hype. But I'm not that dissapointed, and I don't think you should be either. WE GOT OUR RED JOHN, and I personally thought he was great (when it comes to the acting part atleast).

Ok, so I just finished watching the leaked episode. And I'm having mixed feelings about it. 

SPOILERS! (DUH)
Regarding the whole "It's a fake episode thing" everyone seems to be going at right now, I don't think it's a fake. But rather a rough cut of what the actual episode is going to look like. Some scenes that were in this rough cut might make it into the actual episode, some scenes might not make it or might be shown from a different camera angle or whatever (I don't work in the filming buissness so I wouldn't know, just guessing). 

There are a few things that they aren't going to change though. Like McAllister being Red John for example. That's happening, unfortunate for anyone who didn't want that, but that's just how it is. For me, the fact that McAllister is RJ isn't what dissapointed me. Nor was it the acting in the episode. It didn't seem very different at all to me. Alot of people might have percieved the acting as bad since the quality of the colours, picture, the sound and the music was very bad. But that's just because this isn't the finished episode, but a rough cut for the press to watch. 
 
Anyway, what was off-putting to me is that this episode and the plot behind it seemed a bit rushed. I might remember it wrong, but didn't Jane enter the church alone from the back (where eventually McAllister enters) without Bertram being there? Wasn't there a guy in a red turtleneck as well as a woman praying in the back? Maybe that woman was the batshit-crazy knife-lady... But the guy in the turtleneck? WHERE THE FUCK DID HE GO? I had high hopes that it was Mashburn, who was my favorite non-list  suspect and who I'd hoped would end up as RJ. I really hope the whole church scene with Bertram doesn't happen. This seems likely since his body is gone in the promo.

As for the chase scene, the whole 911-call and the eventual killing scene, it wasn't THAT bad. Except for the fact that McAllister was able to run for like 2km with a fucking bullet in his gut. The 911-call I actually liked, the scene where Jane strangles him aswell. The call shows that RJ is desperate, and scared. Just like anyone else. What the fuck would you do if someone came at you wanting to kill you? If he would've just let Patrick kill him, that would mean surrendering and thus losing the 10-year long mindgame between him and Jane.And surrendering is definetly not something RJ would do.The 911-call was just a  try to escape, which he knew wouldn't work. But he was shot and scared, probably losing A LOT of blood. It was simply a desperate situation which called for a desperate(and maybe a bit stupid) solution that didn''t work.

 The strangle scene I liked, and I didn't think Xander Berkeley's acting was bad. On the contrary, he showed real fear in his eyes. Which is perfect IMO. Simon Baker was great as well. He showed that ice cold side to Jane which we saw in the s3 finale. Which I think we all see as the best episode. 

A lot of questions were answered, and a lot of questions weren't answered. But it's not even half the season. I'm sure we'll get our answers soon enough.

Summary: The episode was a bit of a letdown. Not because McAllister is RJ, but because it seemed so rushed. It definetly didn't live up to the hype. But I'm not that dissapointed, and I don't think you should be either. WE GOT OUR RED JOHN, and I personally thought he was great (when it comes to the acting part atleast).

They should have made a movie instead without Heller's input. We all thought he was genius but anyone can throw in red herrings with no real plan in the end or smart conclusion or twists.

Can someone give me a Link for the new episode? i need to watch it :D thx mates

I agree this is one of the funniest sites. www.red-john.info -The comments are hilarious.Someone should add the one about the T-shirt that ANOTHER poster left a few comments down
" I followed Red John for 5 years and all I got was a pigeon!

Priceless guys.

What are we gonna do when we find out that this was the real episode. I have to wait up until 3 o clock to watch it and it could be the same one. I don't care if they explain stuff in the next episode..that's not good enough. He had Red John there with him. There could have been a amazing showdown. Something spectacular. It was not good enough.

No offence but the show is ruined for me if this was it. I won't be tuning in anymore. There would be no point. It would just be silly. Also why didnt they wait until Red John was dealth with before introducing the new characters. The very end of the episode could have been them packing everything up.

I can't make sense of this.