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Ron (CBI Ron)

Ron (CBI Ron)
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Okay, so let me start this off by saying I was so sure it had to be Partridge. He appeared in the first episode, his first words were "Red John enters here...", Jane called RJ a showman, Partridge walked Jane and co. through the details of the crime scene in the first episode as if he were on stage etc. That's until he died, and Bruno Heller says he is legit dead as well, which I was questioning considering we were all so sure it had to be him. When RJ took down Lisbon in the house, she appeared to be pulled back from behind. Lisbon was standing directly in front of a window, nobody came through that door which magically opened - no space. The only explanations are that it was someone outside the window, or Partridge attacked her from a grounded position. In S6E2, it was mentioned that Lisbon was unharmed, but she had been tasered. Partridge could easily have tasered her from the ground. But Heller says he'd dead. So, reluctantly, I'll have to leave that one.

Heller says the list is legit and if RJ is on that list, it's probably Kirkland, with him having some sort of paternal relationship with Stiles. None of the other 4 are disciples, despite how much everyone wants them (or just Bertram) to be.

But here's the ACTUAL theory. As someone who doesn't usually engage in 'conspiracy theories' or try and read too much into some hidden meaning that probably isn't even there, I thought I would indulge myself just this once... Right before RJ calls Jane (apparently from Lisbon's phone) in S6E1, Jane asks CBI Ron (the guy who is in the team and ALWAYS around, but NEVER has any lines lol) if he has seen Lisbon. He says no. Could be a hint. He also has his phone out at that point. He walks off camera, then Jane receives that phone call. When Jane was on the phone to RJ, the camera showed RJ holding his knife in his left hand and wiping blood off with his right. Neither of his hands were free, so how was he talking to Jane? Could have been using a headset, sure, but is it too weird to suggest that Lisbon wasn't killed by RJ because he wasn't there? I'm sure RJ could get his hands on the technology to make a phone call appear as if it is being made from another's phone. Ron could have attacked Partridge (who was clearly some kind of disciple or something), and left and gone back to CBI, and have the other person (Kirkland maybe) attack Lisbon. At CBI, Ron could have made that phone call to Jane after he got confirmation Lisbon was down (you don't have to be RJ to taser someone - anyone could do that). Also, when Lisbon's face was being painted, the assailant didn't use three fingers like RJ does (maybe because he was painting on a smaller space). This may all seem a little light, and it's probably Kirkland (even though he killed that guy in the hospital in a totally not RJ way). He was in that limo, that RJ is associated with etc but whatever, I'm clutching at straws now it's apparently definitely not Partridge. What do you think?


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I have been captivated by 2 things...

First...Why in heaven's name did RJ say "Roll Tide" when departing from a bound PJ?
My ONLY rational thought is because Alabama's mascot is the Crimson (Red) Tide.  These are the things that roll around in my brain at night and keep me watching this great show.  Will there be a payoff?

Secondly, who was the Man walking in the background (waldo style) during the Season 4 finale behind Timothy Carter? He was in a freaking red circle.  You cant tell me they just add this stuff for giggles

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Not a theory but a prediction. I think the viewers will know who RJ is before PJ. These episodes will allow the viewer to learn about RJ and how he decided who to murder and how he manipulated people. There will be flashbacks to events in the show that will show clues throughout the series and how it leads to RJ.

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This is not about who Red John is i dont have an idea anymore, is just about 2 clues i found
watching the episode of tonight, here we go. 

1.- In the description of red john in the final seconds of the chapter, " hes an excelent whisteler" ( i dont know if its spelled like that im mexican) and in that cutscene we see Sheriff Mccalister whistling, and when Ray Haffner visits Lisbon at the hospital, he leaves the room whistling.

2.- Im asuming all of you have noticed that ( probably this is just heller being a troll ) they have tried to shove Ron on our faces the last 2 episodes? Even on the preview of the episode 3, the only thing even remotely related to Red John on the Preview is that we see Ron one more time, 3 episodes in a Row.

So this is my 2 cents about todays episode, i dont think is Ron i just used his picture, but they are going the extra mile to shove him on our faces.

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Ok- in my previous theory 4702 as crokus, my guess was Partridge. I stand by my previous guess.

Now, this whole CBI Ron theory is becoming interesting. He IS literally in every episode minus the ones that directly deal with RJ, except Ron is one of many characters suspected to be Red John (see Red John Theories). Since working at the CBI, he appears in almost every episode and in many RJ episodes, except Red John's Footsteps, The Blood On His Hands, Red Moon, Strawberries and Cream, Scarlet Ribbons, The Crimson Hat and Blinking Red Light.

He is the only REAL " where's Waldo" character, that Bruno heller speaks of. There is also a youtube video where Owain Yeoman (Rigsby) and dovovan (cbi Ron) talk about Ron being RJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0llrwyH08Sg&NR=1&feature=endscreen

His posture, crossing of the legs does match.. They could just be messing with us..

Next, I no longer put any faith into what Bruno Heller says! Here's why...
In the Strawberries and Cream pt 2 episode.. If you put the subtitles on during the part where Teresa calls red john after she shoots Craig OLaughlin- when timothy Carter answer the phone, the subtitle depict his name as "ROSS" - not Red John , not Timothy Carter- but ROSS-

Why? Because Bruno Heller intended him to be the REAL RED JOHN.. We disnt even learn the name timothy carter til the following season premier. Right? I think that it was supposed to be the end of the RJ saga- but in between seasons, Bruno Heller realized that his ratings would drop if there was no more Red John. So they continued on with the story.

And you never hear of or see the name ROSS again..

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So there was suppose to be a big clue at the end of 6.01. I just re-watched the episode and noticed the window in the background after Partridge says tiger tiger had a large amount of light coming through, like it was daytime. Tiger tiger burning bright in the forests of the night? 

The other part of the poem that is interesting is Did He smile His work to see? Did He who made the lamb make thee? Patrick does smile right before the car passes Lisbon, and she does look at it very strangely as it passes.


Now in the seeing red episode you see them zoom in on Lisbon and the music turns dark but they also zoom in on CBI Ron. I think the fact that Ron was about to make a phone call when he talked to Jane was interesting, but could be thrown in to throw us off. That phone in his hand could have been Lisbon's as the light in the window tells us the timing is off. I feel the wheres waldo character is closer to Ron and that is my guess. It seems to me Jane and Loreli made that video together and that is there to throw Lisbon off for whatever reason.


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When Ron appears in the near end of the episode it all flashes at me!!

Imagine you are the director and you want to present the bad guy in a way that no one realizes its him but in the final episode you bring him to peoples minds with flashbacks!!

So first let me point out some thoughts:

1. Why would you have a guy appearing now and then to answer 1 question at random episodes when everyone from the audience feels like this person is not needed to be shown in the series.

2. Patrick is always struggling to find out who goes unnoticed and when - where in the CBI without being seen and then we all try to figure this out but Ron comes in no ones mind because he is not shown in the series often.

3. We all know that RJ has a big knowledge of whats going on in the CBI: Ron has only been to one or two cases with the Teresa team, if I stand correct. If I am mistaken please correct me.

4. In every RJ case we only see Patrick and maybe his team interacting with RJ.

5. Check this out please. Red jOhN - take the capitals = RON, Red John in short RON

My opinion:

In episode 1 season 6 we see RON at the wrong place at the right time. I am not saying he is Red John but he is 99% with 1% always been given to the question of doubt, and I am sure that he went into Teresa's office and checked the computer. When Patrick saw him he was holding a phone. Why would you put an actor in a series that every thing counts to hold a phone at that very moment.

Also, all the team including Patrick are away of the office and they are the only ones that knew about the phones being trapped. But RON called tereza and told her to leave her office and go to that place so he can check her computer like he did with the other member of the team that trapped the phones.

Facts, logical thoughts and my attempt to explain them 1 by 1:

1. How can RON be at the CBI and at the same time we see RJ painting Teresa's face with blood at the house?

- Explanation: They gave us 7 suspects and none of them appear to be on the same scene with Teresa except Brett who is impossible to do all those things because he was down on the floor in front of her when she got ambushed from behind. 

RJ has many followers and he possibly put one of them there to attack Teresa but for what reason? The only ones who knew about the phones was the team. But who would be able to to find out faster? The other RJ suspects that have 0 point to come into CBI or RON who works in the CBI?

2. RON has way heavier voice than the one we listen to when RJ speaks to Patrick on phone

- Explanation: We all know that Patrick is the smartest person with the unlimited memory ever shown on television. If RJ was stupid he would call Patrick with his regular voice. But if he did that Patrick would of recognized that voice. How? The guy sat down and remembered who he shaken hands with. It would not be hard for him to recognize a voice. 

And in all episodes we see Patrick giving 0 cares for the sound of voice because he knows RJ is smarter than that. And all the suspects apart from Brett have heavy voice or at least heavier than the one we listened to.

Thank you,
Christos Fanaris
Nicosia, Cyprus



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