In regards to the Red John voice theory. . . Every time you hear Red John's voice it's realy Simon Baker's voice (just whispered and strained). Listen carefully

Finally! They said his name! I didn't want to get into some vague discription of who I was talking about but I always suspected him. Ron! And to now here that his name is Ron; the combination of Red and John.

That side, while I've been watching the seasons, I've always noticed that one 'extra' who seemed to continuously show up in the background or a walk by at the CBI. Other cop extras would come and go but why would you bother maintaining one background character from the very begining. He has access to everything and everyone. Now very recently he has actually had a speaking part and had Jane call him out in the hallway. If they wanted to even rub it in our face more, when Lisbon was just attacked by Red John, Ron just rounded the corner after speaking with Jane when Red John called Jane. Could have been a time laps between the attack and the call, could have been someone else that attacked Lisbon posing as/for Red John since the attack didn't follow his MO. Maybe Partridge was attacked because he was on the list, or maybe he was attacked because he himself had actually found out something. He always has had an interest in the Red John case and he might have stubbed on to something if not about Red John himself but about the Tiger Tiger club.

I know this is not a name on the list of 7 and Bruno Heller has said we can believe in the list, but that doesn't mean Red John is on the list. It just means the list has meaning in the catching of Red John. All of the people on the list are connected to RJ or the Tiger Tiger club or the catching of RJ. Jane has been smart enough to make a fake list of Red John suspects before for other eyes to discover, why not another one?

Lastly, one of the writers once compared to the search of Red John as a game of 'where's Waldo'. Rod has always be tucked into background shots or wide angle office shots. You could easily call it a game of 'Where's Ron'

Why would Rj have to hire a private investigator to bug the CBI?

I can tell you that the guy who killed the private investigator was CBI Ron though.

Look at the shadow on her door when the killer comes in- it's Ron

Just a thought. Not a theory.

We have to consider how Patrick Jane solves every ordinary case. In most cases Jane keeps his best suspect with him. He does not tell anyone, even Lisbon. Yes, he leads the team to all the possible suspects, and always surprises the team by revealing who the real suspect is at the end of the investigation. 

If we will look closely on what is happening with the list of 7, it is just similar with how Jane solves an ordinary case, but this time it is a big one. He intentionally leads the team to investigate these 7 heads..  The question here is whether Red John is in that list or not.

Let us take for instance the case of San Joaquin Killer. He led the team with all the suspects who are serial killers. Only to find out that James Fanzer, the one who is engaged his self in the investigation, is the San Joaquin Killer. 


Come to think of it, if you are Patrick Jane. Are you really going to tell anyone who your primary leads are? You are Patrick Jane and you want to kill that monster who murdered your wife and child, are you gonna tell Lisbon your suspects if you know she is going to prevent you from doing so (killing red john)?

Thoughts?

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First of all, I find it hard to believe that this "Tyger-Tyger" business has been going on under the noses of Jane, Lisbon, Cho and Rigsby without one of them noticing. And I agree with the recent comment on this board that at least one of them would have been invited to join-up (probably Cho: "The Iceman").

VanPelt has a secret. I suspect that she in involved with the Visualise cult. Remember when Stiles was in custody and he began to speak to her? She seemed interested - plus, VanPelt defended Stiles when others were disparaging him. I don't think that Stiles is Red John, but he knows who Red John is for sure. I strongly suspect that there will be some sort of a revelation about VP shortly.

Rigsby is, perhaps, hiding something also. Maybe he is a "Tyger-Tyger" member?

Lisbon is in love with Jane. This by itself is not a problem - but RJ being at large keeps Patrick close to her. If RJ is killed then Jane will likely move on - or find himself back in prison (or whatever). But the bottom line is that for as long as Red John is out there, Lisbon gets to keep Jane close.

I think that Red John is somebody close to the team - but may not be on the list at all. The list is probably just another one of Patrick's games. It may also be a device to divert attention from another person who Jane thinks is RJ. However, that fact that Red John knew who was on the list is proof that Lorelei is still alive. Maybe the body was a long-lost twin?

I am also intreagued by the idea that Red John may be revealed to the audience, but not to Jane, Lisbon & co.

Interesting.

To be honest, RJ could be anybody - but I'm gonna guess Ron for two reasons.

First, he is always there, but never really a part of any story line.

Secondly, his name is like a shortened version of Red John: R-O-N.

Anyway - enjoy the series, folks!

Ron has been on the series from the beginning, has a desk near Lisbon's team so he can eavesdrop on everybody and we never heard him say a word 

I feel that Ron is RJ, he is from the first season and In recent episodes he appears very often (I would say unnecessarily). Not to mention the various clues, such as the fact that he had the phone in hand when RJ called PJ etc etc: there are several posts about it, needless to mention all over again.

Ron is not on the list:
The "list" is one that has Patrick on his little notebook. 7 Those are only the characters more suspects, but this does not exclude all others.
Sorry for my english, Google Translate made this.
Malerio.