The best evidence or line for Jane being Red John came in the Bosco murder episode.
When thinking about what evidence Bosco was on too related to Carter Peak which happened years ago
Jane says "Well I AM younger and less experienced at that time"

I know he was thinking in terms of Red John but you have to hear him say it.
Thats all he said and it was way awkward. Watch that again..

-Something never talked about is that La Roche died because he was Ba.
-He killed the gas n go clerk because he was ordered too. If u re watch it you blatantly see La Roche wait for jane and Lisbon to walk away then he got in the car. Dude got out of his cuffs in 3 seconds, when does that happen unless you wanted it to happen.
The season 3 finale was one the first times the Rj story line was about the Ba.
IF RJ WANTED HIGHTOWER DEAD SHE BE DEAD.
This was the first Rj thing that didnt pan out. Madeline on the run and the gas station bomb didn't work either. It was not Rj it was the Ba.
Ardilles was in this ep too because he was wondering where Hightower was and guess what? He is Ba as well and thats why he died.

This ep was about a client list that a man with a bomb stole and Hightower on the run. I think there is something more with the list and the Ba. Thats why La Roche killed the clerk.

Todd Johnson killed cops for Rj.
Olaughlin killed Johnson for Ba
Ba framed Hightower and never even questioned Olaughlin about he murder!
Ba sent Olaughlin to kill her.
Again Rj is never this sloppy.
Plus he hired a hitman?! Wtf
-And why would Rj take away Carters gun making Jane go to Jail?
Rj wanted the game to continue but the BA did not!

- I know i post a lot but i do it bc you guys should be doing it more!
Don't sweat the trolls that dwell in the dungeons ripping apart the very thing this site is made for.
There is a chance the Rj stuff isnt over so lets runs with that.

*** Lets take a poll what would you rather read?

1: a Rj theory whether crazy of concise OR
2: F the world F heller its all over i am never watching again etcetera.

Hey theres no harm in venting but we have some clues to talk about.
Red John revival time.
Don't forget the 5 great seasons we have seen.
I suggest going back and watching old episodes. You can really pick out what the Ba does and what Red John does and see somewhat of a pattern.

One episode should not ruin 6 years of great writing and surprises that blew our mind. One episode does not change the chance of a great conclusion to everything.
Watch the old episodes. Look for the connections. Ba vs Rj
Post about them.
Its whoisredjohn.com not commentsectionhatinasses.com

I FOUND THE CLUE FROM THE SEASON 3 FINALE!!

Its not red sweater guy either its red shirt guy!!

When Jane is talking to Carter the camera switches to show whats behind Jane.
Janes head is blocking the word "cappachino" so all you see is the word "CAP"
Right then a man in a red shirt and a black cap appears.
He is shows for a few seconds them the camera changes.
The camera goes on him again and then Jane and Carter stand up while he is in the background.
Now listen this man is 5 feet behind Carter when Jane shoots.
All hell breaks loose and everyone runs then Jane sits back down.
A good 3 MINUTES goes by then the cops come.
-Right after the cops come you see the guy again!!!
In reality he woulda been long gone by then.
The whole mall cleared out!
You see him run across the screen behind Jane blatantly as the cops close in.
He kinda looks like Macalister but maybe not....
Please go back and watch and tell me what u think..
Somebody PLEASE screenshot it and enlarge it for me i am not good at that, d666 I'm looking at u lol.
*this is deff the clue Heller was speaking of the is blatantly shown 4 times for a reason.
And the end when he runs across 3 minutes after the mall cleared out proved it to me.

Kira Tinsley:
I have already talked about this scenario ad nauseum.
Tinsley was a young sloppy outsider placed ina game full of experts.
She was pointless yet she gave the most important clue about red john IN THE SHOWS HISTORY.
So i find it Plausible that her role and purpose was not as simple as a Rj mistake as we think..

It takes 3 seconds to use a taser and slit a throat.
Why did Rj leave her alive for the exact second Janes arrives.
And why was her last not words but sentence a name and not "tattoo on left shoulder" ?
Red John left her alive and did not use his knife for a reason.
He pinned her down and hypnotized her to say the tattoo thing.
She obviously didn't see the tattoo that night.
And lets say she was intimate with this person and saw the tattoo before. How would she know that the tattoo clue would be worth anything to jane? Theres tons of men in the world she coulda been killed by.

But she was not intimate with anyone. Her last words were so important and they led Jane right to the Ba.
Every clue fell right to Jane! Think about it if you were Rj a mastermind and wanted to take down the Ba how would you do it? He got what he wanted plus faked his death all by simply leaving a few breadcrumbs for Jane.

*That was the game. That was RED JOHNS RULES.
Jane knew this as he starred at the lady feeding the pidgeons.
He even got the last riddle of how to take down Macalister...BIRDS!
Season 6 was a huge chess game masked by a game of checkers.
Styles will return. Another poster reminded me of Styles last speech to his cult.
U know the one with the two hot babes one naked one not with fearful symmetry.
He spoke of leaving and returning. Simple as that the dude is pulling a Jesus.

**But Heller said this Heller said that you guys are all idiots its just a tv show!
Yea its a tv show built on surprises WHAT THR FUCK DO YOU THINK HELLER IS GONNA SAY?!
Do coaches give away info before a game just because a media guys asks? F NO!
For you to sit there alone at home and think for sure you know whats entail for season 7 you're dumber than dicks.
Did you guess Carter was Fake? Did you guess Mac was RJ and BA?
Be prepared to be surprised. Formermale

Macalister is NOT red john #74960"3'xe&(65

Rebecca Anderson and the foster care lady died for red john. Died with a smile of their face too.
Their devotion is that of a CULT like following. This is not a group of corrupt cops their dying for either.
They're dying for a reason too. Rebecca spoke about red johns plan. Seeing ones true self.
Todd Johnson spoke of the same.

Todd Johnson was killing cops
in serial killer fashion FOR RED JOHN. Why would he kill a SELECT group of cops one by one?
One of the cops was Hightower's ex boyfriend.
I believe these cops were Ba.
"The plan" Johnson spoke of was taking down the Ba. Killing cops does not seem like a Macalister thing to do.
And who killed Todd Johnson? Who set him on fire to suffer and why?
Red John followers either take a pill or magic killer goo is used.
Set a follower on fire? Craig Olaughlin set him on fire bc OLaughlin WAS Ba.
Red john didn't want Hightower dead why would he?
The ba wanted Hightower framed or killed or both. To cover up their Todd Johnson business.
-the red john i know does NOT hire an outside hit-woman (remember?)
And why would he send a guy to kill Hightower who did nothing by the way?
Red John handles biz himself.
He does not care about framing Hightower for the murder of Todd Johnson. Or care about OLaughlin at all. He was BA. Red john is against the ba.
*It all started with the DVD from Lorelie.
After that each clue easily led to the BA. Jane took each clue at face value and he never does that. He took them at face value externally, but inside he knows what going on.
Partridge saying tiger tiger.
Sparing Lisbon because WHY? Because Jane was doing what rj wanted, take down the Ba.
Sophie Miller
Kira Tinsley
The usb
Were all clues that literally fell of janes lap!
-What does a show do when all it has left is a bunch of questions?
It already made the two main characters canoodle and happiness cant get any higher right?
The only thing left to do is fill the plot holes.
Its one of the greatest shows of all times final series. Honestly, what do you think their gonna do? And fuck everything bruno Heller has said!

People think i am crazy but the clues are all there. The reason we hated season 6 is bc we got no answers. There is no answer in Macalister, the head of the Ba, being a serial killer guro Charles Manson type.

Macalister is NOT red john #8271895

I was watching the ep with Kirkland describing his brothers past. How he was an alcoholic and was saved by a man.
Why would the leader of an organization change a young alcoholics life and recruit him if he has every lawyer and cop under his control? The Ba didn't have civilians that offer nothing.
Macalister does not seem like a guru type right ?

Listen you can tell me that Red John is dead and maybe your right but there is with a doubt in my mind another villain who is pulling the strings.

Side note: why would cbi appoint bosco to the rj case then kill him? Why not just remove the evidence he was on too? Very weird. Was bosco Ba?
Was anyone Ba before season 6? Lorelie definitely was not Ba and never mentioned them.
And if Lorelie was looking for red john to see if he killed her sister why not look into the ba too?
She never stood trial for her crimes or a pre trial and the fbi was obsessed with her yet Kirkland NEVER QUESTIONED her!

Adding on to the previous poster:
I re watched season 6 1-8 and 1000 things stood out to me.
One major thing was jane and how he acted around Lisbon.
Now he already told her the list so secrecy is irrelevant at this point i would think.

Yet whenever a situation arrises about Red John Lisbon asks "what does it mean"
And Jane replies "what do you think it means".
Now if it only happened once then whatever but i heard him say that at least 3 times.
Everything from 1-8 was off and it was off bc Jane was acting different.
If you compare janes reactions in season 6 with all other red john situations you will see a huge difference.
He was too calm. To open. Too normal. He was making moves like he was playing checkers.
Rj would leave clues and jane would take them at face value and follow.

**Episodes 1-8 TO ME seemed like Red John was leaving BREADCRUMBS for Patrick.
Jane who usually sees a triple con in each of red johns clues, eats the breadcrumbs right up.