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Brett Partridge

Brett Partridge
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Red John is none of the suspects, is the one we never expected. RJ is Patrick Jane, he has 'Dissociative identity disorder', that is how he had the same names that the DVD and why RJ was able to steal his 'happy memory'. Lorelai really loved Jane, they have this 'connection' and that is why she did the recording on the DVD.
Ask yourselves, how Patrick Jane can solve every case and never the ones when Red John is involved.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzDyGcBwJnU this video describes a lot of great information of why Brett Partridge is RJ and I agree with all of his deep research.

on a side note I found out the name of the first episode of season 6 will be called "desert rose" which is a
 rosette formations of crystal clusters of gypsum so its a rose thats not really a rose which would mean that the list is not really the list ;).

I can't wait for season 6 this September I will be so happy then :D

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2 REALLYYY good theories I found:

1) Red John is the son of Timothy Farragut, the founder of Visualize. From the list of suspects, this makes him most likely Bob Kirkland or possibly Brett Partidge (though that seems too obvious to me).

Here's the basic theory: The Mentalist is playfully written - it presents us with puzzles, symbols, metaphors, allusions, psychological doubles and wordplay - classic literary techniques. The big clue about Red John is in the names....

RJ assumes the pseudonym Roy Tagliaferro, which we're told means 'cut iron'. He has been associated with Bret Stiles and Visualize from an early stage and season 7 episode confirms that he has been at some point a member of the cult (and probably still is). He uses cult techniques to control his followers and the language he uses to persuade is very much a mirror of the language used by that of Visualized, too; it's a fair assumption.

This episode also gives us his approximate age: he's described a 'a kid' some 20 years previously. There's a suggestion that Ray Haffner is a contemporary. The constant 'doubling' with Jayne also suggests strongly that he and RJ are of a similar age (and mentality - they are the darkness and the light of the same personality, in a sense). So this rules out the likes of Stiles from the list (too old) and Partridge (too young). Partridge is, however, very likely a 'friend' and probably lends RJ the voice that he uses publicly. Partridge may also be the son of Stiles - so, a 'brother' to RJ in an almost literal sense.

Why? Look at the names. Tagliaferro (cut iron)/Farragut ('iron gut'). The writers have almost given it to us on a plate here. Red John is the son of Timothy Farragut, the founder of Visualise who was murdered by Stiles. Don't be surprised if we discover that RJ was raised almost as Stiles' own son within the cult and therefore assumed special status. Being as intelligent as he is, he more than likely knows that Stiles killed his father, but their relationship is a complex one; each fears the other, but their destinies are somehow bound together. RJ is the twisted product of Bret Stiles murderous tyranny and manipulation, a being who has grown somewhat out of control and is developing his own cult within a cult with a purpose that is as yet unclear - but it does seem to go to the heart of the US justice system.

He more than likely has complete access to the Visualize 'confessions', hence his knowledge of Patrick's happy memory (revealed by Patrick's doctor, more than likely a Visualised member). He could have worked out Patrick's list himself; he would know which of his surviving 'friends' Patrick has met and shaken hands with and would know that Jayne will have worked this out for himself. It's a bluff, a scare tactic.

What Patrick has is a list of Red John and his six key lieutenants and RJ knows he's getting way too close now, so he needs to scare him, play Patrick at his own mind games. But which is RJ? I'm plumping for Kirkland. Why? A double bluff from the writers, who are playing games with us. They've given him to us knowing that we're going to speculate and doubt and say 'No, that's too easy.' It ain't too easy. It's Kirkland. Think about the scene in the hospital where he killed the guy who could have identified him. 'Do you know who I am?' he asks. That's the loyalty test for members - deny all knowledge, even on pain of death, even to Red John himself. It's like Peter denying Jesus. Kirkland's the man, and he's a maniac

2) My theory is about how did RJ made the exact same list like PJ did. I dunno if someone already posted this but here it goes:
Theory: Lorelei is still alive
Supporting Details:
-you can see an "ALIVE" word painted before PJ saw the "fake dead body" of Lorelei.
-Lorelei's wound is not shown. She is just covered with a blanket full of blood. And she is naked so no one can take the blanket off.
-Kirkland is in charge of the crime scene which i assume that is an accomplice of RJ if not RJ himself because of the fact that he killed Lennon.
That's why Kirkland breaks into PJ's room, steal the list, made video of Lorelei and then pass the video to the girl in CSP who also works for RJ and when caught killed herself through a pill.

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 so many theories who and who isnt red john, i found out something that could be very important which i havent ready in any other theory

Season 2, episode 8
remember when the assistent of bosco, rebecca anderson was caught killing bosco's crew? She was showing her abiding love for red john. When she was transported to the prisoncells at the cbi, she was escorted by 2 police agents. At the hallway to the cells, she is sudenly looking up.. she is looking straight ahead to the person walking towards them, its clearly that she looks relieved... inlove.. happy... and to what person would she have these feelings? Red John ofcouse, when this man passes rebecca and the 2 agents, this person (red John) poisons rebecca by putting some green stuff on rebecca's hand and she dies..

now... take this in mind... the hallway to the cells.. who would have acces to this area without letting the 2 escorting agents doubt he shouldnt be there

brett stiles couldnt walk there, he has nothing to do there, he isnt even a police agent, no civillians should be able to walk there right ?

Gale betram.. perhaps, but then i would say the agents would say something 'hello sir' since he is there boss right.. and no person walks by there boss without saying anything...

Raymond hafner..  could be, he works at the cbi

Reed smith.. wasnt he fbi?why should he be walking there?

Bob kirkland, same as reed smith..

Sherrif thomas mcallister.. same again

Brett partridge, well he works at the cbi, same as gale and raymond.. so he could be there.

for some reason i think that an fbi agent, a sherrif from another place, homeland security and a leader of a church wouldnt be able to walk near the cells of the cbi whenever they want to

id like to hear your thoughts about this, u think this could help out scratching some names of the list?

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There are plenty of reasons why it's totally plausible that Brett Partridge is Red John. He fits the description given by Rosalind Harker. He's a forensics expert. He "irks" Patrick Jane. His voice has that same odd, soft tone to it. We all know this. 

I think there's a lot of multi-layered meaning in the characters' names, particularly those of the seven Red John suspects. The name "Brett Partridge" is one of the most interesting. According to Greek mythology, the first partridge appeared when Daedalus threw his nephew Perdix off the sacred hill of Minerva in a fit of jealous rage. Perdix, as an apt scholar under Daedalus's charge, showed considerable evidence of ingenuity. Walking along the seashore, he picked up the spine of a fish. Imitating it, he took a piece of iron and notched it along the edge, thus inventing the saw. He then put two pieces of iron together with a rivet at one end, sharpened the other ends, and thus made a pair of compasses. (Yes, the myth specifically says iron. Possible origin for the Tagliaferro alias?) Daedalus could not bear the idea of a rival, and was so envious of his nephew's accomplishments that he took the opportunity to push him off a high tower atop the hill. Athena, who favors ingenuity, saw Perdix falling and changed him into a bird -- a partridge. Mindful of his fall, the partridge does not build its nests in the trees or take lofty flights, and avoids high places. For his crime, Daedalus was tried and banished. Athena brands him with a partridge so he will never forget the crime. 

To me, this could mean several things in regards to Brett Partridge/Red John:

1. As I said, it might serve to explain where Red John got the name Tagliaferro. Yes, Tagliaferro means "cut iron," but why pick that name? It's an awfully specific and uncommon name to pull out of thin air, which I doubt Red John would do anyway. Remember, he considers himself a showman. Everything is intentional, and there are no coincidences.

2. We already know that Red John is/was somehow involved with Visualize. We know that Timothy Farragut, the original Visualize guru, was quite possibly murdered by Bret Stiles, and we assume that Stiles would have done this purely for the sake of power. But what if there's more to that story? I don't think it's a coincidence that Stiles and Partridge are both named Bret/Brett. The writers of The Mentalist could have picked any name, so why give the same name to two characters, especially when both of those characters turn out to be such significant parts of the story?
My own personal theory, based on the Greek partridge myth -- Bret Stiles is Brett Partridge's father, or the two are at least related. As the guru of Visualize, Timothy Farragut would have been something of a "teacher" to all his followers, including Bret and Brett. Farragut observes that despite his young age, Brett has gathered a number of his own followers within the cult. Brett is a skilled manipulator capable of great charisma, a worthy rival that Farragut feels compelled to somehow rid himself of. Farragut's plans, whatever they were, go awry, and although he manages to cause Brett's "fall from grace" within Visualize, he is "banished" (killed) by either Bret or Brett in 1977.

3. Just like partridges avoid literal high places, Red John avoids figurative high places in society (prestigious jobs, appearing to be particularly gifted at his job in forensics, or anything that would call too much attention to his true identity) as Brett Partridge. He is mindful of his prior fall, and he lays low. Every other suspect on Patrick's list has a fairly public and relatively high-ranking job, whereas Partridge appears so average that he just kind of disappears into the background of society. If you want to be a notorious serial killer, you have to appear completely mediocre. 




I do think the other six people on the list are associates/followers of Red John, and that Gale Bertram is Red John's right-hand man. I think the name "Bertram" is a reference to Prince Bertram the Bad, a children's book about a prince who was "born bad" and enjoys terrorizing the people around him. It's an obscure reference, but all the illustrations in the book are done primarily in red tones (even the cover is red). I don't think that kind of imagery is an accident. 

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I believe the physical attributes given by Rosalind Harker cannot be trusted. Even Jane, when he compiled his list, didn't take much consideration to her description. If Jane had taken her description into consideration completely, all but three or four would have been excluded off the list.

Brett Partridge, even without Harker's description, still fits. In 1988, the first two murders of Red John occurred, and according to The Red Barn, anyone under 30 would be considered a kid, which would make the age range most likely in the mid 40's for Red John. Partridge fits this, as does his body type which matches the police officer that passes Rebecca in the episode His Right Red Hand. He is very slim, and he walks with a slight swagger, just as Partridge does in the pilot episode, when he is going through the murder scene and describing it.

He also is a CSI Forensics expert, who has access to the CBI and would also have access to any gossip or talk going on in the CBI, such as Bosco getting the Red John Files, since Rebecca would have already been in place, she was most likely there as a mole, but Red John needed her to kill the team so Jane could get the files back, and Red John could continue his game with Jane. Partridge also has knowledge of evidence, and how to clean it up should he have to, or he could even know how to avoid leaving evidence, as it is his job to collect it.

It is also possible that before anyone else got to the motel scene in the finale or season 5, or when nobody was in the motel room, he could have penciled in the CPS number on the wall, leading Jane to CPS and in turn, to Gottlieb who gives him the disc from Red John.

Partridge is also into macabre horror and has little shock value about murders, and even commented about congealed human fat and tissue cooking on lightbulbs in Red Laquer Nail Polish. He's ghoulish, and he revels in the fact people have died a terrible death.

He and Patrick have never gotten to like each other. From the pilot, they both do not see eye-to-eye on the Red John scenes, with Partridge often wrong in declaring if they are 'official' Red John murders. Even though they have never shaken hands on-screen, it is safe to say that when Jane first started with the CBI that he would have shaken hands with his colleagues, including Partridge.

Also, through everything, Red John has always taken out anyone who has gotten in the way of his fun with Patrick Jane, and who could identify him: Kristina, Todd, Rebecca--but the one person Red John has let go, even though she is helping him hunt Red John and even though she has gotten in the way many times of Red John's fun, is Lisbon. Partridge has taken a liking to Lisbon, as is evident by the easy conversations they have and the way he speaks to her at scenes. It is possible that he cares for Lisbon, and doesn't wish to harm her...yet. If she becomes a problem and she gets Jane closer to his identity, she may just be in the crosshairs. Just an interesting observation.

Now for Stiles, I believe he knows Red John. I believe the reason he knows Red John's identity is because Red John is a member of Visualize. Visualize members are made to make 'Ventilation Videos' to spell out all the wrong deeds they have ever done. I believe that Red John has made a few of these videos, and that Stiles has seen them. This would explain how Stiles knew where Jane could find Kristina Frye, and how Stiles knows Red John. And, because Visualize is considered a 'religious organization', Red John's identity is kept private, and possible kept that way because Stiles has been accused of crimes to which he does not want any attention paid to. If he gave Red John's identity, it is presumed the FBI would raid his church and discover things Brett Stiles may want to keep buried.

Thanks for reading.

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I personally believe Red John is Partridge.  If you look at his physique in Red John's Rules and then at Red John's physique in Red Sky in the Morning, they are incredibly similar.  He also fits the physical description of having short hair and being just under 6' tall, as he stands at 5'11.

Now that we got that out of the way...

Is has been established that Red John is or was a member of Visualize.  Bret Stiles obviously is the head of Visualize.  I have zero evidence backing this up, but it was a thought that came to me and I wanted to see what everyone thought...is there a relation between Partridge and Stiles?  Could Stiles be Partridge's father or a mentor at Visualize?  I'm quite sure that Stiles either knows who Red John is, or has a very good idea who it is.  Whether or not Stiles has anything to do with Red John or not, I'm still going with Partridge.

What do you all think?

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