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So I am going through all Blake's poems to see if I can catch a clue and is amazing how often the expression "silver hair" or "white hair" appears. I am not saying it is Stiles I'm just very suspicious about him now... and I think you should take a look at this poem:


The Ecchoing Green

The Sun does arise,
And make happy the skies.
The merry bells ring
To welcome the Spring.
The sky-lark and thrush,
The birds of the bush,
Sing louder around.
To the bells chearful sound.
While our sports shall be seen
On the Ecchoing Green.

Old John with white hair
Does laugh away care,
Sitting under the oak,
Among the old folk,
They laugh at our play,
And soon they all say.
Such such were the joys.
When we all girls & boys,
In our youth-time were seen,
On the Ecchoing Green.

Till the little ones weary
No more can be merry
The sun does descend.
And our sports have an end:
Round the laps of their mothers,
Many sisters and brothers,
Like birds in their nest,
Are ready for rest;
And sport no more seen,
On the darkening Green.

William Blake

And this other piece also from Blake:

"I rest not from my great task!
To open the Eternal Worlds,
to open the immortal Eyes
Of Man inwards into the Worlds of Thought."


                                                                     

Think of Malcolm McDowell singing during the shower "Singin´in the Rain" in Clockwork Orange. This voice! Huh! And he was a great panther in Cat People! Now we are looking for a Tiger! So I like Sandman´s Theory #7388 and I like Malcolm McDowell. Tyger Tyger ... meow! ;-) 

Why have they never thought of doing voice analysis to get a match with anyone in all the security agencies? CBI, FBI, or Homeland? 

Red John has a distinct voice it shouldn't be so hard?

Clues are fun, and very pertinent in real life crime solving.  However, the only criteria needed in solving THIS mystery is the ability to correctly profile the mind of the show's creator, Bruno Heller. 

In as much, one needs to determine which of the VIABLE 'suspects' would make for the most exciting and watchable climax.  All of the remaining suspects, save one, would be vary ANTI-climactic as Red John.  The lone exception?  Malcolm McDowell as 'Bret Stiles'.  The ultimate bad guy in all his movies gets another crack to prove his lifetime achievement as 'Red John'.  None of the remaining candidates - all with careers as underlings in one way or another - would trump having McDowell say to Jane at the end, with bright evil eyes, "Won't you come with me Patrick?  It would be a GLORIOUS adventure!" (wry smile).

We're not cracking a real case, people.  We should be figuring out which 'suspect' would give the show the most bang for it's buck.  'Bret Stiles', the leader of the mysterious cult,  HAS TO be 'Red John'.

I can't understand this newfound mania to accuse Minelli, Rigsby, Michael Kirkland, Brett Partridge and ESPECIALLY PATRICK JANE!!! Please end this madness!!!

I feel that Heller is loosing his touch this season. Earlier he said that the Red John line would end in the Show Finale in 2014, now he's ending it in November 2013? He killed Partridge without a motive. He killed Miller to give Red John an excuse other for being a psychic, and like Patrick said, Red John could have had 1000 ways of getting that memory. Why choose Sophie? Kirkland is killed by a secret organization that uses the line "Tyger, Tyger" as a password. Why would Red John recite that poem to Jane? Why would he give to Jane the mean for recognizing the members of his own organization? Unless Red John isn't part of the "Tyger, Tyger".
BUT:
From what it appears Red John episode will feature Michael Gaston(Bertram) and Drew Powell(Smith) as characters from the list, so Red John may be one of them if he will be caught in that episode.

I feel this is going to a total disaster though. Ye can't put together an organization of corrupt mediocre men and tell the tv viewer "Their mediocre leader(either Bertram either Smith), is Red John. Yup. The same Red John who hypnotized Christina Frye and knew about Roll Tide, or the same Red John that won at least three rounds at the end of Seasons 3, 4 and 5 vs Patrick, without mentioning Jared Renfrew or the framing of Hightower."

Honestly, I don't think John would be someone who would insult and then pick a fight with CBI agents on the Crime Scene, or someone who would need poker counsels from Patrick Jane(If someone is better than Patrick at bluffing, that's John). There are two guys in the whole series, with the potential of being Red John: Bret Stiles and Sean Barlow. They are the only guys who have proven to outsmart Jane.

Even the list being real is a BIG failure, because that makes The Mentalist, a show which is all about smart traps and intelligent games, a mechanic police chase with Process-of-Elemination(POE).

I think John shouldn't had been at all in that list, because it's made of such poor choices.

Heller thinks he's smart. I'll show him smart:
1-Sean Barlow-Super Intelligent Mentalist. Jane shook hands with him in the past plus he
2-Bret Stiles-Leader of Visualize.Enough said.
3-Gabe Mancini-FBI Agent,I always saw him superior to Smith, plus Mancini is left-handed in italian. Some think RJ is left handed.
4-Royston Daniel-Very rich master of Hypnosis
5-Dean Harken-Money, Power, Friends in the FBI etc.
6-Walter Mashburn-Unlimited Money and resources to corrupt people. Also, very intelligent, cold blooded and, just like John, shows a certain interest in Lisbon.
7-Robert Kirkland-For all the reason some people, at the end of season 5, thought he was alive.

Now ask yourselves this: If this was the list, do you think any of them lacks what it takes to be Red John. Anyone of those guys could be just "ruled out", like you do with Heller's choices, especially if they would appear in the sixth season like little red herrings, just like the suspects of Hellers' List do?

See. That is smart.

Smart is a list of smart people, anyone of which has the intellectual capacity of being Red John, not just random guys who appeared briefly in the second episode of the first season, or Smith, Bertram, Partridge or Haffner, all those played more than once by Jane. Simply people of inferior intelligence compared to Jane. John has to be superior. As I said, you can't fake a superior intelligence by making an jigsaw puzzle organzation of mediocre pieces.

Like it or not, Heller lost his touch this season, not because he killed Bob,but because Bob couldn't give the "Tyger, Tyger" thing to Jane and all roads lead to unlikely suspects Bertram and Smith, and because there are nonsenses in the investigation, like, Why didn't Kirkland ask Lennon who John was?;Why did John kill Sophie when he had 1000 ways of getting the memory and Why did John kill Partridge?

Any smart ideas Mr.Heller, because, honestly, another kill in the 5th Episode(that of Beth Riesgraf's character from what we got from the promo), would be such an unnatural way to solve this knot.
UNLESS:
You have thought for the real Red John to be Stiles, but it's the TTO(Tyger Tyger Organization) who killed Patrick's family for some unknown reason and RJ recited the poem to Patrick's ear to warn him of his family's killers, and if it's the TTO who killed Todd Johnson and Brett Partridge because they were with Stiles, and with their poems they identified their killer, not their ally.The TTO would recruit people within law enforcement, Orville Tanner, Jared Renfrew and Todd Johnson were outside Law Enforcement. Plus Johnson was killing cops(TTO members maybe?) for Stiles. Dumar Tanner under the name of Sheriff Ted Hardy and Brett Partridge may have been Stiles' agents inside the Law Enforcement and(maybe) TTO.

Then again, why doesn't Stiles appear in the 8th Episode?

And one request to the community: Can you direct me to the sources who say that RJ will be captured or killed at the 8th episode.

According to Bruno Heller, Partridge's death, big clue in finding who Red John is.

http://i.imgur.com/DWzhzB5.jpg

The **first picture** is taken right after Van Pelt has finished setting up the gps tracking devices. And the **second picture** is taken at night, when Lisbon got the call to check on Partridge.

You can see in both pictures that only one subject was steady the whole time. That is Bret Stiles, S1 who was on "862 Laurel Rd San Francisco, CA".

Haffner/McAllister and Reede Smith were "In transit" in both time, so They coudn't be RJ. 
But Bertram is so close to the murder scene..

Why I think Stiles is Red John? Because Partridge is at that house in both pictures. That means he's being kept there by Red John before Van Pelt put the gps tracking. 

If Red John was with Partridge the whole time, waiting the night fall and preparing for Lisbon, then the only viable suspect is S1, which is Stiles. 

Knowing that Smith had a job to do that day, working for the FBI, it's understanding that he's S2 and S1 is Bret Stiles.

Your opinion on this?