Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Well that was weird.

Everything has been weird since the reveal.
The people who work for the show spoiled every twist and turn possible.
The RJ reveal was in the promo.
Bruno Heller doing a thousand interviews that i read on some weird Christian website.
He literally told us what was going to happen and that they pulled Red John from their ass.
Seriously what creator of a show built on mystery spoils his own shit?
Red Johns done, he isn't coming back , Nobody liked the Rj story line, Jane moved on, all chance of RJ return is not happening don't worry, things are going to end happy, here is a promo of our series conclusion a week in advance in case you were wondering if the characters will survive. We wouldn't wanna build SUSPENSE OR ANYTHING!!

Even weirder that they chose to recreate the show only for one short season instead of doing the Red John stuff right.
New characters and new setting, they even added a new member to the team in the finale!!! WHO DOES THAT?
Are they selling themselves to another network?

This season reminded me of Burn Notice and definitely could be on USA.
The "MENTOR alist"? Jane training some young gumshoes?
Or maybe "Red John the college years"...so we can learn about a guy who was as powerful as the president who let it all go away because he wanted to mess with some guy who called a serial killer a monster over a decade ago.
He decided it was the right time to "confront" Jane when his gang got CAUGHT and his EMPIRE WAS CRUMBLING.
He let Jane expose the tattoo clue about his people and ruin his life's work...... All so Jane could hear tiger tiger from a few people and only then he could shoot him after Jane pretended to think Bertam was Red John?!?!?!?!

Confession: There is a part of me who was happy watching the finale.
I knew nothing was going to happen so I just enjoyed it for what it was.
Seeing CBI Ron dance and Cho give fashion advice was enough for me.
Jane being a damn good con man and reading all those people on TV.
Pulling a MCguiver with the bubble gum making it a bomb.
Seeing Abbot talk cracks me up i don't know why.
He is just too damn smooth. 
Even though Patrick Jane is a tragic character and it should of ended differently,
i was still happy to see him happy after all these years of hell.
He was a great character to watch and i will miss his antics.

Been a pleasure sharing theories with all you out there.
We had wayyyy better ideas on here than real life and thats a FACT!
To all the trolls, inside your jacket pocket is a dead mouse.
It smells like dick cheese mixed with rotten fish and it will linger inside your pocket for all eternity.
No matter how many times you wash it the smell will be there. Alive.
Use a fabric softener it doesn't matter, that dead mouse is leaving his mark. mark.

 


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All those years passed ! Thanks for the first five seasons which were amazing ,but at the end everything was ruined in the seasons 6 and 7.


About the last episode , i thought it would be related to red john but this was not the case.
I thought that all the questions will be answered like"how did RJ got the list "...
what about the woman that left after the fight with Jane at the church,what happened to her??

At the end , it was an amazing series from the start till the season 5 . And it was good to see lisbon and jane to finally get together .

I hope there will be a movie that answers all the questions 

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Well obviously i'm sharing my disappointment here. The Lazarus serial killer was a joke, not more than any bad guy they catch on a regular basis. It wasn't series finale material except for the wedding part, but that would fit rather in gossip girl final or so. I am angry at myself for not letting go since the day I saw the leaked episode 608. Though I stopped watching after that episode, I kept reading content on this website and other articles, keeping my hopes up. Even today I watched the finale hoping for a "Hello Patrick" that never arrived.

I guess my attachment to the RJ arc got me stupid, but I must say that reading amazing theories here also makes you long for more, for smarter, for greater and more surprising than what the writers delivered. I have different scenarios in mind, RJ was Partridge, RJ was Rigsby, RJ was Haffner, RJ was Stiles, RJ was McAllister but none of them include a master hypnotiser that didn't manage to cure his fear of pigeon, none of them include pigeons at all.

Some called me brain-dead for expecting the RJ return, but I believe TM changed and started to mainly address the "brain-dead" in the way that season 6/7 would please people that just watch the show without engaging in a deeper analysis, who don't connect the dots, who don't see the ramifications or the bigger picture.

One last point, writers should take into account the readers (and in our case the viewers) and not give away hints here and there and never act on them. They used writing elements to build cliffhangers and to drive drama but left us hanging there, that is not good writing, it is false adver-teasing (what Bosco told Jane for example) that leads nowhere. Just for that reason, I consider these writers are cheap and actually don't deserve the title of writers.

Thanks all for sharing great theories, raising valuable points and plot holes, for commenting, giving your opinion, analysing and re-analysing and always want to think an extra-mile. This state of mind might not be the dominant majority and might cause us some more disappointment in general, but I believe that's the right path.

Keep being curious and smart,
Merci!

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Three out of four theories posted on this website were far better than what the producers of The Mentalist managed to write for these two past seasons.

I've read some incredible theories that would have been the perfect ending to this series.
But nooo, the whole Red John extravaganza turned out to be nothing but crap. I am sorry that we wasted our time coming up with these ideas, all these connections between the suspects and Red John.

With this Red John plot, the show adopted a different angle for the current police tv series, it's a shame that it had to end (and in a horrible manner) in season 6. I can't see the point of the season 6 after Red John plot and season 7. At least we expected for something Red John related to be revealed in the final episode, maybe some deeper connection between Lazarus and RJ.

All this time, our minds were awfully tricked into coming up with all these theories, we tended to pay attention to some details that maybe even the producers missed. It's stupid not to have a main antagonist for a whole season. I felt like watching a combination between NCIS and some soap opera show. No plot, no nothing.
But I guess this happens when our expectations were great. Nothing.

Anyhow, thank you for these past years where every single one of the posts came up with an original idea. It's amazing to see all these people being involved in such a manner in this tv show.
I will miss the discussions about the RJ episodes and all the theories. And especially the moment when the RJ episode was leaked, the way everyone hoped it wasn't the real one (myself included).

We had a good run for 6 and a half seasons. Those moments will be remembered!

Sincerely,
A simple fan.

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Corrections:
've loved this showed and followed The Mentalist since the very first episode. It's been my favorite television show for many years. I loved all the literary allusions and clues as much as any of you, but Bruno Heller and the other producers killed the plot.
Mentalist Producer Szentgyorgyi told Deadline, "We started plotting out a conclusion to the Red John story about a third of the way through season six. 
http://deadline.com/2015/02/the-mentalist-series-finale-original-ending-jane-lisbon-cho-future-spino....
So that's it. All the clues were pointless. In my mind Brett Partridge was the real Red John. Grace and Rigsby should have been killed by RJ and Patrick Jane never should have had a happy ending.
I'd like to thank the creator of this fansite and Stoopkid for never giving up on crazy theories.

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I've loved this showed and followed The Mentalist since the very first episode. It's been my favorite television show for many years. I loved all the literary allusions and clues as much as any of you. But Bruno Heller and the other producers the plot.
Mentalist Producer Szentgyorgyi told Deadline, "We started plotting out a conclusion to the Red John story about a third of the way through season six. 
http://deadline.com/2015/02/the-mentalist-series-finale-original-ending-jane-lisbon-cho-future-spino...
So that's it. All the clues were pointless. In my mind Brett Partridge was the real Red John. Grace and Rigsby should have been killed by RJ and Patrick Jane never should have had a happy ending.
I'd like to thank the creator of this fansite and Stoopkid for never giving up on crazy theories.




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