What a waste of time the last 2 seasons have been. That was a fine example that writers and producers have no idea where their show is going long term or just don't stick with it. what a joke.
What a waste of time the last 2 seasons have been. That was a fine example that writers and producers have no idea where their show is going long term or just don't stick with it. what a joke.
I agree. Never watching another Bruno Heller show (Gotham or anything else) again. Waste of time & no payoff. Go into writing soap operas.
Lamer than lame two seasons. Warner Brothers executive 'convinces' Bruno Heller what is best for the show & Heller says it was genius for him to think of revealing Red John as some small town sheriff with no similarities to Patrick & ending the Red John story arc early. It just shows that good talent still has to bow & kiss ass to jackasses who retain their position in Hollywood through seniority &/ or mental dementia due to old age.
Patrick Jane's father was Lorelei's stepfather & that is Red John / Same Actor. Stoopidkid pretends to be the originator of that theory, but it was my wife & I who knew it the night it aired & not months later after Stoopkid bugged the hell out of me to reveal it & then takes it as his own. Patrick Jane & Red John even used the same color tea cup! American men are not known for drinking tea & listening to Classical Music & Red John knows all about some memory from Patrick's childhood?
Plus doesn't it seem obvious that Red John kills Lorelei on a carnival storage lot with a spotlight he is trying to show who is the real star..... father & not son?
This show went from great to shit soap opera love pandering. Gag & vomit a little.
HAHAHAHAHAHhahaha. WHAT A JOKE !!! I'm not even mad. Screw over a brilliant show like this ? That takes some serious work and effort. So congratulations BH you almost won "the most idiotic man in history" contest. Sadly you are so stupid, you couldn't even manage ending up first. Oh boy, but thanks for the laughs, I really laughed my ass of during finale. I've seen a lot of violence and disturbing content on both TV and Internet, but if anything of it should leave a mark on my mental health, this was it!
I sincerely hope, that some american fan will go full nuts and find your ass. I hope that one day, BH comes home and he sees a smiley face on wall. His family dead and then a gentle voice saying:" I was getting the feeling, you are forgetting about me. I needed to remind you who I am. What I am."
If I had a genie, my only whish would be a short videorecord of his face in that moment. I would masturbate to it until I would end up in some kind of ephoric-catatonic coma. I salute to all the "fans" out here who were able to see this season for what it really was. And shame on the others icluding myself. Shame on us for letting ourselves be buttfucked by uncle Bruno. Im not watching Gotham anymore, because I won't let you fuck me twice Bruno. Never posted a theory here, althought I was visitng very frequently to substitute the thrill I wasn't getting from the show.
So please someone near Bruno, grab your murican brainwashed mojo and DO make BH regret for screwing with RJ. Have a nice day guys.
Well that was weird.
Everything has been weird since the reveal.
The people who work for the show spoiled every twist and turn possible.
The RJ reveal was in the promo.
Bruno Heller doing a thousand interviews that i read on some weird Christian website.
He literally told us what was going to happen and that they pulled Red John from their ass.
Seriously what creator of a show built on mystery spoils his own shit?
Red Johns done, he isn't coming back , Nobody liked the Rj story line, Jane moved on, all chance of RJ return is not happening don't worry, things are going to end happy, here is a promo of our series conclusion a week in advance in case you were wondering if the characters will survive. We wouldn't wanna build SUSPENSE OR ANYTHING!!
Even weirder that they chose to recreate the show only for one short season instead of doing the Red John stuff right.
New characters and new setting, they even added a new member to the team in the finale!!! WHO DOES THAT?
Are they selling themselves to another network?
This season reminded me of Burn Notice and definitely could be on USA.
The "MENTOR alist"? Jane training some young gumshoes?
Or maybe "Red John the college years"...so we can learn about a guy who was as powerful as the president who let it all go away because he wanted to mess with some guy who called a serial killer a monster over a decade ago.
He decided it was the right time to "confront" Jane when his gang got CAUGHT and his EMPIRE WAS CRUMBLING.
He let Jane expose the tattoo clue about his people and ruin his life's work...... All so Jane could hear tiger tiger from a few people and only then he could shoot him after Jane pretended to think Bertam was Red John?!?!?!?!
Confession: There is a part of me who was happy watching the finale.
I knew nothing was going to happen so I just enjoyed it for what it was.
Seeing CBI Ron dance and Cho give fashion advice was enough for me.
Jane being a damn good con man and reading all those people on TV.
Pulling a MCguiver with the bubble gum making it a bomb.
Seeing Abbot talk cracks me up i don't know why.
He is just too damn smooth.
Even though Patrick Jane is a tragic character and it should of ended differently,
i was still happy to see him happy after all these years of hell.
He was a great character to watch and i will miss his antics.
Been a pleasure sharing theories with all you out there.
We had wayyyy better ideas on here than real life and thats a FACT!
To all the trolls, inside your jacket pocket is a dead mouse.
It smells like dick cheese mixed with rotten fish and it will linger inside your pocket for all eternity.
No matter how many times you wash it the smell will be there. Alive.
Use a fabric softener it doesn't matter, that dead mouse is leaving his mark. mark.
All those years passed ! Thanks for the first five seasons which were amazing ,but at the end everything was ruined in the seasons 6 and 7.
About the last episode , i thought it would be related to red john but this was not the case.
I thought that all the questions will be answered like"how did RJ got the list "...
what about the woman that left after the fight with Jane at the church,what happened to her??
At the end , it was an amazing series from the start till the season 5 . And it was good to see lisbon and jane to finally get together .
I hope there will be a movie that answers all the questions
Well obviously i'm sharing my disappointment here. The Lazarus serial killer was a joke, not more than any bad guy they catch on a regular basis. It wasn't series finale material except for the wedding part, but that would fit rather in gossip girl final or so. I am angry at myself for not letting go since the day I saw the leaked episode 608. Though I stopped watching after that episode, I kept reading content on this website and other articles, keeping my hopes up. Even today I watched the finale hoping for a "Hello Patrick" that never arrived.
I guess my attachment to the RJ arc got me stupid, but I must say that reading amazing theories here also makes you long for more, for smarter, for greater and more surprising than what the writers delivered. I have different scenarios in mind, RJ was Partridge, RJ was Rigsby, RJ was Haffner, RJ was Stiles, RJ was McAllister but none of them include a master hypnotiser that didn't manage to cure his fear of pigeon, none of them include pigeons at all.
Some called me brain-dead for expecting the RJ return, but I believe TM changed and started to mainly address the "brain-dead" in the way that season 6/7 would please people that just watch the show without engaging in a deeper analysis, who don't connect the dots, who don't see the ramifications or the bigger picture.
One last point, writers should take into account the readers (and in our case the viewers) and not give away hints here and there and never act on them. They used writing elements to build cliffhangers and to drive drama but left us hanging there, that is not good writing, it is false adver-teasing (what Bosco told Jane for example) that leads nowhere. Just for that reason, I consider these writers are cheap and actually don't deserve the title of writers.
Thanks all for sharing great theories, raising valuable points and plot holes, for commenting, giving your opinion, analysing and re-analysing and always want to think an extra-mile. This state of mind might not be the dominant majority and might cause us some more disappointment in general, but I believe that's the right path.
Keep being curious and smart,
Merci!