Who is Red John?

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with regards to the promo.

The church scene will happen at the start of the episode as it is a continuation of previous one. Someone will come into the church and will be whoever PJ is talking too. The i win the game dialogue that goes with it is dubbed and will come later in the episode.

The same happened in previous preview, whilst outside Bertram's house he is one of them. They edited this missed bertrams name out etc and linked it with Rigsby's don't trust any cops one.

I am certain I know who is it, and it will be a huge surprise to many on here.

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so. Here is the situation.

1) Bertram is definitely RJ   ( I see no reason why the group wouldn't kill him, as they were going for Smith, however how was the bomb planted?)

or

2) He is the ultimate red herring.


Bertram has been reporting to someone - that someone MUST be RJ (unknown to him)
RJ MUST be the head of the blake appreciation.
But nobody knows who it is.

He was fighting to survive this episode, as was Smith only difference being Smith got wounded. Killing Jane was an attempt to keep his secret (3 dots) I see no specific reason to believe he is RJ

I believe PJ has figured it out hence why he dropped the cup, why he stared at birds again. The leak to the media was a diversion.

If is not Bertram and the person and RJ on the list
there are only 2 options
1) Partridge - who his fans will be still praying for him return - very unlikely it was explained why he said Tiger Tiger. To try and get help. HAS TO BE DEAD - SORRY or what do you see in that picture????
2) Michael Kirkland - THIS HAS TO BE REVISITED or the twin story was pointless!!!!! (maybe a explanation from Bertram if he is infact RJ would explain it

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Source Orlando Sentinel

The series seems to reveal Red John's identity conclusively tonight, but hold on for next week's twisty and chilling resolution.

You'll get no spoilers here, but the plot should delight conspiracy buffs, and the Jane-Red John showdown is memorably staged. Red John killed Jane's wife and daughter.

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Or 3rd option is its somebody else which I find highly unlikely and too late to do it now.

Really enjoyed the episode, liked how bad Bertram became.

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Lots of clue's on twitter.

Can you find them?

Suggest a good place to start is Michael Gaston. :P

Don't hate me im just the actor

asked why.

response just watch

then hey rj can I get a retweet. and he RT

If Reede Smith turned out to be RJ unlikely what a pic this would be
http://instagram.com/p/e39JikFnFZ/

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POSSIBLE SPOILER

Apparently its Reede Smith. Ior is made to look like him at end of this episode)

We shall see soon.

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I have to say I find this incredible.

Final 5.

Probably final 3.  (by comments it is looking likely it is DEFINTILEY one of these 3)

and on this website he has as many theories as Rigsby.

Is there something obvious that is being missed here about Reede Smith??

Like NOBODY suspects him. Is that the point? Everyone focusing on other people? Most of the guilty people in the show are the ones in the background. the ones you least suspect

I get the reasons why physical description, height etc.alot of clues don't match up

How about listing some reasons why it might be him...........

Heres the first couple

1. He seemed in charge in the office with bertam. Almost telling Bertram what to do.

is Bertram reporting direct to him on the phone?

2. How many of the suspects are murderers? He definitely is

I am not saying RJ is Reede Smith, just looking at the possibility that it maybe. Before you all start going.... no chance.. Leave some comments.


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I have actually changed my mind.

Despite reading theories which have stated Michael Kirkland as RJ. I shook my head at these as I found them ridiculous. I am now actually starting to believe it is him.

Lets look at this with common sense, from a writers perspective.

1. You want to make Bob Kirkland hunt RJ. Whats the backstory? Now this could be anything. Like he killed his girlfriend, or something like that. But what have they come up with.

they came up with the idea of a TWIN who Bob 'thinks' RJ murdered.

Not only is that vague but it is pretty lame. I mean it is pretty poor explanation This HAS to be revisited in the next 2 episodes. There has to be more to it then that.

Now if you start looking at the clues, for what we know about RJ. I am pretty sure, all of them could be linked to a MK

1. He would have the link to Visualize
2. Height hair weight etc
3. He would have access to most things by impersonating his brother
4. We don't know what his voice is
5. Phobia's etc no idea.

Then all the clues with symmetry and poems etc. Twins

It didn't make sense the killing of Lennon. He would have been interrogated to find identity of RJ

This would be classed as a 'surprise' as we had never heard of Michael Kirkland before (fits with Robin Tunney quote)

The actor who gets to play RJ has said he thought he was a red herring. Bob Kirkland WAS definitely a red herring.

Michael Kirkland could easily blend into the background

Bret Styles would know him. Bret also laughed at Patricks suggestion that one of the five was RJ. To me this was telling he seemed very surprised by this.

I am not sure how I would feel about it. But it really can be twisted so it does make sense so I wouldn't be overly surprised if it turned out to be him.


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Interesting clues in previous episode

1)   Hightowers aunt calls Jane a lamb. Interesting use of word here. Its in the poem, tiger tiger, it could also be seen as the prey of tiger. It clearly being used as a reference for something.

2)   Jane has Tyger Tyger said to him by a) Red John in end of season episode. Who clearly isn't red john and is just someone protecting him.  b) Todd when he dies, If it is a code word which it is, why say it to Patrick Jane....... he would have to be involved to surely say the code word to..

3)   PJ has been investigated for 9 years under the suspicion of being RJ. Yet when Kirkland had a chance to interrogate him. He didn't even ask him ;Are you red john? Also the topic was pretty much brushed off, by Hightower, as if we know its not you. Why investigate for NINE years??? If they thought it wasn't him surely they would stop? Or have they just not caught him yet.

As I have said previously the teasers have always been put in place. More reasons and facts from the show could be listed for PJ being RJ then any other character. I would much rather in the red john episode when all suspects are gathered, they turn the tables from the usual format and reveal PJ as RJ. PJ then spends the rest of the season fighting the good and bad within him, whilst being chased by none corrupt officials resulting in the breaking up of the network.. Rather than a random reveal. Of someone who is quite unbelievable in the role.

95% of the people reading this wont agree but the reality is most people will be disappointed at first whoever or whatever RJ turns out to be.

I liked Kirkland's character in last episode. Dark. Could have played this for a bit longer in previous season, then had the swerve that he was also hunting RJ



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