Who is Red John?

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In S06E07 at 31:55 very difficult to see, I’ll
put the image in the comments, a wine bottle’s box,

The vineyard is called SE7EN GRACES, it
must mean seven graces.


The logo is a cluster of grapes with seven
grapes on it.


The product’s name is 3infandel (don’t know
how to read that big number three)


It’s a 2007 product, and guess what, from
NAPA VALLEY

750ml/Bottle,
still one more thing I couldn’t
read, maybe if someone with HD can do it.

 



So what does that mean? McAlister is RJ? Or
it’s just a gift from him to Bertram.

Could he be the owner of that vineyard? Or
it’s RJ’s?

 



I tried to find that wine on the web, it
turns out that Napa valley is famous for its wineries.


Too many bottles of wine in that Bertram
hideout, but this SE7EN GRACES thing, doesn’t exist anywhere. It’s the future
winery of Bruno HELLER.


Let’s
get back to WHOISRJ, its becoming too obvious that PJ doesn’t trust Lisbon we
still don’t know why? Lately for example, we don’t know what happened in the
Malibu house before the explosion, which shot who? Why is he keeping this from her, or is it from us?
Was PJ hiding body parts
under those white sheets?




Someone, few theories ago, talked about Carmen
li in incomprehensible English, I thought I I understood that he meant Lisbon
is Carmen Li, Lee or Leigh, would that be possible? mmmm

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look at the pictures in the comments please, who's that little girl

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Theory #11693 • By whiteeagle
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The twisted theory part II


 
For those
who liked and disliked the twisted theory about the way we are watching

PJ’s live as a CBI consultant chasing RJ, in the wrong order, here is some new matters
to think of.


For those who haven’t had the chance to look at
it, it’s here:

http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/11589
(important to read before the following)


 


In the comment of the previous theory, a reader
added how Kirkland and his twin Michael could easily fit the backwards story, a
good job I would like to add that one of them was chasing the tiger tigers and
got killed by them so the other one came for revenge, helped dismantling
tigers, and after questioning them the police knew about the existence of one
member who’s not been caught yet named RJ.

 (Kirkland
crossed the line by kidnaping PJ and cut the other guy’s finger), but still he later
joins the CBI in the hunt of RJ. As I said PJ’s memories are not so clear yet.

 



And I’m becoming to believe that there’s a certain
order of watching all episodes, maybe a symmetrical one, yeah this is going too
far I know… But we have certain episodes that can fit anywhere in the show, where
there’s no RJ being mentioned, it still have to be in the same season though.

 



Now we still have to talk about the list of six (Kirkland’s
out) and Lorelei.


Remember to think twisted, backwards,

 



Bertram McAllister and Smith are brave infiltrated
agent in the tiger.org.


After the tiger dismantling Gale will be promoted
in CBI, Reede in FBI and McAlister becomes the sheriff of Napa.


Stiles and Haffner may have had a deal with the
authorities to keep visualize, cause they were not involved in the tiger
killings.

The ritual we saw stiles in, it’s where the bust
for the tigers will take place. RJ was there and managed to escape.

 


Lorelei and Partridge are no easy subjects to
treat. They are both dead in Jane’s memories, why?

 

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Thank you guys for all those theories, good
ones and bad ones, that made us very close to find the enigma.


Thank u for all those whites nights
thinking about RJ and PJ, rewatching, pausing, rewinding, writing, streaming,
posting, commenting, arguing.


We all woke up one day thinking “I’ve got
it” it’s Partridge, McAllister, Bertram, Mashburn or every other actor in this
show, pro and anti-Partridge, Jane is RJ, no it’s Rigsby, from the least to the
best, soon RJ will be revealed, it will be awesome, and we’ll discover that BH had
mentalized us.



 

But hey no, we haven’t done everything
yet,, after all those thinking, the answer must come to one of us, the REVELATION,
or actually it’s a TRICK.

 



I think found it, and I need help to put all the
pieces together, especially from partridges’ fans, because he is RJ. With proof.




I don’t how to start but we are watching
PJ’s live as a CBI consultant chasing RJ, in the wrong order.

What if the last season was in reality the
beginning of PJ in CBI and the first is the last just before capturing RJ, remember
the symmetry, when you look at a mirror you see right in left and left in
right.

Arguments:

why RJ is making mistakes now (kira
tinseley PI) and in the beginning it was perfect. Even CHO made mistakes because
he is a young detective now. And RJ is a young killer.


Why Partidge at S06E01 seem to be afraid of
PJ, unlike the first time we saw him, confident and making is show.


When in S01E01 we saw flashbacks of PJ on
tv making his pshycic, he said something about RJ

that he already killed 8 or nine women or
victims, he was talking about all the victims in all six seasons, because everything
is going backwards, and he said one other important thing on tv is that he use
to or have worked with the police helping them catch RJ, he was on tv because
he had already caught RJ.
The Normal PJ we know never worked with police before
the RJ incident.



When he came back home and found his
family murdered we have three possibilities:


-Before getting caught RJ murdered the
family.


-It wasn’t the real RJ caught.


-RJ wasn’t caught at all, and janes family
was in secured house (that famous Malibu house)



 I don’t know witch one to choose,, but any
how PJ came home and found what he found and was deeply shocked (who wouldn’t).
he went to a mental hospital and know his getting back his memories bit by
bit,, starting with recent memories first, the first season and then the
second,, we actually are discovering his memories.
Of course he won’t remember all
crimes he solved one by one but the main RJ hunt could fit.

 


I know it will be very difficult to prove
this kind of twisted theorie but it’s a twisted show.

 



If jane hadn’t caught RJ yet, I think RJ
would be visiting him in the mental hospital, that is the seen we’re supposed
to see in a park.
Every time PJ has like an absence for 4 or 5 sec,, he’s
connecting his memories with his reality in that mental hospital,, Carmen lee
may be a nurse there or another mental case, or it’s that woman feeding
pigeons;

 



It’s becoming too long,, please help guys
to fit the story. And keep it alive.

 


i still have some ideas to share about how
the list of seven could fits in backwards, also the death of partridge and Kirkland,,


 



Hope I’m not the one who’s twisted.


by the way this is the first time i click on Partridge as my suspect. he must be for the beauty of the show, mayebe another can fit too.

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http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/06/mentalist-finale-season-6-red-john-list/

in that interview BH did not say RJ is on the or one of the names on the list.

All he said was "yes we can trust the list"

it can heve another meaning than RJ is one of the suspects. it could be we can trust the people on the list, they are not bad people, the're not RJ,, PJ knows none of those is RJ.
he is using them. he may be getting help from haffner and stiles.

how did jane knew where to find stiles before everybody. the letter that stiles recieved "PJ is looking for you" was from him and not from cooper or anyone else in visualise, look at the handwriting, pictures in the comments, the same as on PJ's first list.

the whole thing about the list is a trap, that PJ is doing to get RJ
except for Smith because we saw him killing kirkland,, but i think it was something else we'll discover it later.
BH didn't say that RJ will be killed he said " If and when Red John is caught, there’s an interesting life dilemma for Patrick Jane and the rest. I think it would be very odd if Red John falls dead "
PJ will catch RJ alone, and either RJ escapes again, Patrick will be punished and call back later because RJ is killing again, and this time, it would be the last season, he will catch him for good. the differnce is that we know who RJ is.

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Theory #11103 • By whiteeagle
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There are times, my friends




When no matter how smart


the noble detective,

 



no matter how clever


his simple tricks,

 



no matter how many


the people he saved,



no matter how cruel


the killers he caught,

 



no matter how just


the vengeance he’s waiting for,
 



there are times, my friends

 



times

 



when the dragon still wins.


 
WHAT IF RJ KILLS PJ has anyone thought of
it

How do we know that PJ will be on the run
for a while after E08.

 


Original
text here http://greatreddragon.com/

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the last sneak peek from CBS
http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/11/the-mentalist-episode-607-great-red_13.html
look carefully at haffner

first he was sitting on Stiles right hand and than on his left next to the door

After whay teresa told him about Jane thinking he's RJ he tries to escape when PJ turns his back but Patrick saw him and shot to make him sitdown again, that was the shot we heard before lisbon came and everything exploded.

when first we saw the five suspects sitting McAllister had his hat with him on the couch with his hand always on it. when PJ asked him to move with others the hat remains in it's place.
was there anything Inside it,, after all why bring his hat with him he could've kept it in his car.

in E08 we'll see a Young actor Nick nordella,, i think hell play Mcallister's role,, the resemblance is too much, secially the dimple chin they both have. no any other blue eyed suspect has it.

i'll keep my theory that this Young actor will play a role in PJ's past,




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