Who is Red John?

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I think Ray Haffner has the tattoo, and Ray Haffner killed the private investigator (nicely played by Beth Riesgraf aka Parker from LEVERAGE, as PJ said), but Haffner isn't RJ. Here's my explanation.
The real RJ hires a private investigator, but that's not Kyra (sorry, not sure about the name). That's Ray. Meanwhile Kyra is actually hired by Tyger-Tyger. So, Kyra is hired to spy on CBI, and Ray is hired to spy on Kyra (as Cooper told, he's busy with another job).
About Kyra:
As we saw, Tygers were trying to persuade somebody within Lisbon's team to work with Tygers. That's why the guy who passed some documents to Rigsby said what he said. And that's why Kyra was trying to get closer to Cho.
About Ray:
Ray knows about Tyger-Tyger, but he is not with them. He is against them and that's why he left CBI without any serious reason. Ray hates cops and he has a tattoo, which means "death to cops".
About RJ:
RJ knows what we've presumed about Kyra and Ray. RJ hires Ray to spy on Kyra and get close relations with her, telling she's with Tygers and she's spying on Lisbon's team. Ray even warns Lisbon and Van Pelt about it. RJ persuades Ray to kill Kyra, and voila!!! Everything worked perfectly, as RJ planned. Now PJ has a false clue. Surely he'll find Ray's tattoo and that is exactly what RJ expects.
As an additional thought, Kyra's behavior was changed after she noticed something about Van Pelt. It could be some sign connected to visualists. So, if Kyra was working for Tygers, then visualists and Tygers at least dislike each other.

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To avoid and also encourage some conclusions, please, rewatch "The Red Barn" episode before watching "The Red Tattoo". Focus on what Haffner speaks, on Van Pelt and DiBuono, and the last scene as well.
Excuse me for posting not a theory.

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Some revelations were made in "Red Listed".
1) Lorelei Martins is dead. That's because Kirkland was the only man who could fake her death or save her, as he was responsible for her body. But he had no idea about the real list, so Lorelei must be dead.
2) I think this one is the most important. The person, who told Kirkland about Tyger-Tyger, could be RJ. Why? Because of coffee :-) You see, Kirkland brought with him three types of coffee. He explained that he did it for Smith, but that wasn't true. How many types of coffee one can find? More than three. So, Kirkland actually had two appointments in the park. As he left after talking to Smith, Reede must be the second appointment. The person whom Kirkland met before Smith, refused to drink coffee. Why? Because he prefers tea. We know two people who prefer tea. First is PJ, who could have no meeting with Kirkland according to the further developments of the episode. Second is RJ. So who could it be if looking at the list? Not Smith, probably not Bertram. All the others.
3) Now I strongly believe I was right some months age posting this: http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/3673
4) Tyger-Tyger... The very first time it was mentioned by RJ. Why? Was he thinking PJ is an insider? Or may be RJ wanted to warn PJ about something? Again I have to remember Todd Johnson. Was he killing good or bad cops? He refused to kill Mars, so it seems Todd wasn't so bad. Later he wanted to see PJ and tell him something only PJ could understand (probably Todd found it safe to talk to PJ, as there was no way him being in Tyger-Tyger). Anyway, it's very-very pleasant that this Tyger-Tyger thing was planned from season two!!!
5) Wish to give some tribute to Bob Kirkland. He was a good guy. You know, the term "red listed' is also used to describe dying species (listed in the Red Book). Tigers are also listed there. I think Bob Kirkland was red listed. RIP. But I hope we'll enjoy some new portion of very charismatic performance by Kevin Corrigan, if he returns as Mike Kirkland. By the way, now PJ has a valuable mean. He may try to find Mike (we know how he looks) and if finding alive, probably try to use the knowledge about his past and direct him against RJ.
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Some thoughts about our investigation.I think this is our last chance to post something about Kirkland, as some hours later it could be not actual any more.
So, if the list is true and RJ is one person, how the hell is Heller going to surprise us? We discussed almost all the possibilities. I think there may be a solution: RJ is someone on the list and at the same time someone not on the list. How could it be? Remember "do you recognize me" question by Kirkland. He may be just a new personality for someone who we think is dead or lost.
Actually I don't believe this could be true, so my next statement is about the whole list itself. We know that Stiles knows RJ. We know that Haffner is probably working for Stiles and interested in RJ case, so may be Haffner knows RJ as well. We may consider that Kirkland knows RJ (again, remember the scene with Lennon, though the coming episode is tending to tell us the vice-verse is true). We know that Partridge knew RJ (Tyger... like Todd). So, 4 of 7. The remaining three met at Bertram's office and obviously have some secrets. May we conclude, that all listed people know RJ?
One more notation from "Red Moon". Todd Johnson - the only person, who is considered to be RJ's friend and who was ready to reveal something about RJ. He was also talking about some bigger plans, Jane couldn't see the whole picture and so on. Are we sure he was with RJ? Actually he never said that. He just said "Tyger...", like Partridge. May be he was just a victim. "Red Moon" was Heller's episode, so I guess Todd's story is not over.
One more detail. About McAllister. He wears uniform with four stars on each side. What does it mean? We were shown a lot of sheriffs throughout the series and as I noticed none of them is wearing this kind of starful uniform.
And the last. Are we going to develop Smith's character somehow? I don't think his presence in the list was just a miscalculation by scriptwriters. There must be something relevant and not only his name. I'm going to rewatch S5E1.
Thanks for attention and your help in our co-investigation.

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I'm sure there would be fans from Mexico reading this forum. So I have a question to them.
What possible meanings does the word "Mariscal" have in Mexico? Is it probable to call a man in uniform with that word?
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First of all the biggest problem with all the fans posting here (including myself) is that we are trying to defeat scriptwriters (particulary Bruno Heller) by predicting the outcome. But at the same time we are hoping that Heller would be able to defeat us and none of the existing theories would be true. So our needs include some inner paradox, which makes hard for us to generate completely uncrushable theories.
Second, most of us are posting deductive theories and there is a lack of inductive ones. You see, deductive theories are limitless, because almost any person, even the most unbelievable one, could be introduced as RJ. For example, PJ's daughter, who is supposed to be RJ's only child victim! I can create a theory from nothing about her being RJ. I can say, that RJ is a mask and the person behind it is changing time by time. RJ who killed PJ's wife was Tim Carter, but he couldn't kill the daughter. We know he had some weakness for girls (remember the hostage victim Mrs. Carter was keeping). So he just took her to his home (replacing with his previous hostage's body), and later the child became RJ.
So, I must ask you to pay more attention to the facts and not the guesses. Here is my inductive theory made some months ago, before the current season started: http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/3591
And a deductive one, also by me: http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/4438
You see the difference.
By the way, now I'm still thinking about McAllister being the most probable suspect. Actually two new facts about him were revealed: smelling abilities (shampoo and oregano), hunting (there was something about Africa, where Carters met RJ, so safari is a good connector here). I would also add the game they played with PJ in S1E2. What were they doing? Shaking hands!
Other facts, shown during these last 3 episodes, are:
Trap for Lisbon (still no clear reason, just guesses)
Partridge saying "Tyger..."
Electroshocker
Using Lisbon's phone (attention, not RJ's, but Lisbon's) with busy hands
Miller's record
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Some thoughts, mostly about S06E01.
1) If you re-watch the first four minutes of S05E22, you'll see a very interesting scene including Jane meeting Partridge. Could be a false conclusion, but Jane's reaction to Partridge points that he suspects Brett (as RJ or as an assistant). So, I think, Jane believes his list is true.
2) In S06E01, when Jane calls Lisbon, she says "Not now, Jane" (sitting in the office and watching the map with seven markers). Why? What was she busy with? Waiting for something? Just a moment later she gladly answers her office phone.
3) A very interesting picture on GPS mobile tracker. Kirkland's phone is in Los Angeles, S1 is in San Francisco (Stiles or Smith), Haffner and S2 are somewhere near Sacramento, but not in the city, the same for McAllister (but not in Napa, strangely), and only Bertram and Partridge are in Sacramento. Just let's remember this for further observations.
4) Don't think it's important, but wasn't Lisbon right-handed? In S06E01 she holds the gun with her left hand.
5) What was wrong with bathroom? Lisbon and Partridge were not alone in the house.
6) Ron's strange appearance means that we should consider some personalities not included in the list as RJ or his assistants.
7) We clearly see RJ talking to PJ and at the same time holding the "knife" in the left and cleaning it by the right. Believing that a human being, even RJ, couldn't have three hands, either RJ uses some kind of earphone, or we are dealing with two persons.
8) I can't believe we'll be informed about RJ's identity in S06E08. I'm not a fan of kind of "he is many" theories, but unfortunately we are directed in that way. So probably only one important name would be revealed in S06E08.

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