Who is Red John?

Theories of quazigogogo (18)

i have a 30 year old single female that sits next to me at work.  through discussions with her, i realize that single women of her age either obsess over their 16 pet cats, or they obsess over TV shows.  the problem is that people like her (TV obsessed) are the ones that go on message boards and scream for Jisbon.  More power to them.  If they can't find love in life, i guess the gallon tub of ice cream and tv romance gives them the warm and fuzzy.  I do believe though, that this demographic is the one that spends more time online posting and hoping for all shows to become romantic.  The demographic that preferred the RJ storyline was just as big, but while they watch the show, don't express their feelings as much.  basically, i think that Jisbon gets more run online than RJ simply because those that like Jisbon are the type that spend more time stalking tv shows online than those that preferred RJ (minus the hardcore fans on this site of course). 

Of the 7 listed suspects, everyone agreed that Reede Smith was the biggest longshot.....and so do I.  But of the original 7, he is the only one that is confirmed to still be alive......

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The whole thing started spiralling out of control with the introduction of the BA.  I know that "Tiger Tiger" was there for years, but It could have been nothing more than the fact that RJ's mom read him Blake poetry as a kid after repeatedly dropping him on his head.  Then it was a compulsive thing RJ passed on to his followers.  Before Season 6 I thought of them saying TT as a way of giving PJ a big FU when he thought he was going to get useful info out of someone.  The fact of having a psycho serial killer with a cult like following being the same person that leads a very secretive society of law enforcement offers, not only is unrealistic, but also made it impossible for everything to work together.

Now that everything got convoluted into a giant pile of donkey dung, the only way to salvage the first 5 seasons is to back track a little and separate RJ and the BA.  Let McAllister be the leader of the BA.  Maybe RJ even had a friend inside the BA that helped him out from time to time.  Yes they used TT as a calling card, but that is the only definite link between RJ and BA and could have been RJ's way of selling out the BA, or maybe RJ was actually part of the BA at one point, and got obsessed with the TT thing.  But i would see him as a maybe a member but not the leader.  even if it has to be McAllister, letting him be a creepy local sherriff who moonlights by hacking up girls makes sense, but not the leader of BA.  (On a side note, the biggest error in heller choosing mcallister is the way mcallister was in the beginning.  He couldn't even control his chub long enough to take down GVP, but we are expected to believe that he took down all those other women over the years without screwing up). 

The hot chick from Leverage never said it was RJ that hired and killed her, just that he had the ... tattoo, which was an indication of BA, not RJ.

And no, i don't think it was CHO.  I just picked him to honor the fact that he is the best thing going for the show now that JISBON is intact. 

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season 7 starts 3 years after season 6 ended.  lisbon has retired to stay at home with their little one.  jane and cho are checking out a body that was found in a dumpster outside of a nudist colony.  fischer is still useless except for a single observation she pulled off the internet about how nudist colonies are usually full of ugly people but the victim was actually a former male model.  wiley uses his ninja computer skills to uncover the fact that the colony is actually a low budget nude reality webshow based on the Big Brother style.  PJ eventually roots out the killer by temporarily joining the colony and realizing that the only person in the community that would make eye contact before giving a "full body" visual examination would be the person with something to hide.  all the while abbot just smirks and acts like PJ's little games are acceptable ways to draw out  a killer and will definintely hold up in court.  after cho gives his fail proof interrogation technique of asking "so, why'd you do it" while staring straight through the suspect and into their soul,  they admit that they had to do it, because size really does matter.  the show ends with a fully clothed PJ walking into a silent house and finding a note taped to the outside of the bedroom door......

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i know this has been said before, but why couldn't the RJ story line end with timothy carter.  the night i watched that episode was the most satisfied i have ever been with a tv show.  and it wasn't because of who RJ was, but the way it went down.  you had an arrogant creepy little man, who slipped up and got caught.  and for the first time in tv history, the hero of the show chose to flush morals down the drain and follow through with his plan.  and then the best part of all was when he sat down to finish his tea, know very well the consequences he would face.

also, up til then, the clues that had been put out could have been tied up.  you had a creepy guy who liked killing, he was dorky enough to be a computer hacker, maybe he had a relative in the fbi that he used for a couple of small tasks.  the true downward spiral started at the beginning of season 4.  mainly because RJ became more of a focus on an almost weekly basis.  before S4, he would pop up every few episodes, but after that we started getting more and more clues.  at the time it seemed great, but with more and more clues, it became almost impossible to ti them all together.

so what ended up happening, for me at least, is that once the RJ reveal was over, i not only felt cheated out of all of S6, but i felt cheated all the way back to S4.  and it is sad to think that in the past 3 seasons there was enough time to create and establsh an entirely new super villain for PJ to chase.  especially since they had options like stiles and laroche that they could have played off of.

i compare this to the matrix movies.  the first 2 were full of cool action and planted all these seeds about prophecy and revolution.  i went to the midnight opening of the 3rd movie, and at the end there was a giant "WTF" throught the entire crowd.

that being said, to take a page from stoopkid and post and outrageously optimistic theory, S7 could still save all of this.  i could even grow to ignore the jisbon crap.  basically we can all agree that the patrick jane story is complete.  he got his bad guy.  he got is new girl...speaking of which, in defense of the jisbon fans, even though to me it seems creepy and almost incestuous, i think a lot of us could appreciate the post RJ episodes a little more if you continue to remind yourself that there was a 2 year break between the CBI and FBI episodes.  in those 2 years there were a lot of letters shared between the two, and a lot of time for jane to start to move on.

but still, S7 will be worthless if they continue to focus on jane.  on the other hand, it will be great if they take 13 episodes to replay the entire series through the eyes of Red John.  just as we rooted for jane to catch RJ for years, we can see jane as rj's nemisis over the span.  also, that would give a chance to tie things up. they could show which clues meant something, and ones that are unexplainable could be shown as intentional misdirection by RJ.  it would be incredible. i know xander berkeley would be up to the task.

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