Who is Red John?

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I accuse Patrick Jane to knowingly arresting the wrong suspect as the killer in the last episode Black Helicopters.

What leads me to this conclusion is the following:

1.) His speech to the "leader" Alex before he adresses the group:

"Alex. I like what you're doing here, and I want to help you. Will you let me
speak to them now? I'm gonna say something that may shock you, but if you work with me, I guarantee you will come out of this a big hero. You will be golden. I promise. Yes?"

2. ) Alex behavoir during Janes "thing"

After that speech he assembles all suspect over 45.  Alex is the only one shown in a ray of light.

Jane is walking back and forth.

"Edith Firlock knew a lot of radical fringe types from the old days. One of those old friends... is on the run"

As he delivers his first punchline he looks strait into Alex' eyes.

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he turns and continues: "...and using your farm to hide out" as he delivers this second part Alex bows his head in shame.

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Jane walks back toward the other side.

"Now, I think Edith figured that out and came down to pay a visit."

"Any takers?"

As Jane asks that question he again looks strait into Alex' eyes. After a moments hesitation Alex turns his head to break eye contact and evade the glance.

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As Jane gets arid of all none gun owners the camera first shows Alex looking down and then again his head in the light as the others leave.

"The killer's starting to get nervous. The killer feels like
it's 110 degrees in here."

As he plants that suggestion Alex wipes sweat of his forehead. Jane eliminates the two people to the left and right of Alex.

The look of despair is quite apparent on his face:

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Patrick is continuing planting suggestions:

"And I would suggest that the killer can now see Edith... Every time they blink.Yeah. You can see her, right? Coming for revenge. Right in the corner of your vision."

As Jane is finishing the last sentence Alex is pushing his shirt to the side ready to draw his gun. While the other 3 suspects are listening with expression ranging from sleepy, bored to annoyed Alex face and body display extreme tension.

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 Jane finishes the speech by saying:
"That poor woman."

He again faces Alex and stares strait into his eyes with nothing but a few inches between them.

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Just before Alex was about to break Marsha steps in to take the blame. Soon after she drew her weapon she starts crying looking at Alex.

Earlier this episode Jane said:

"Well, knowing what people secretly want is what I do."

Jane knowing what people secretly want is a major theme of the episode.
He did it with Cho, Wiley, Abbot and Agent Fischer. He did the same with Marsha.
He figured out that she was secretly in love with Alex and hence would sacrifice herself to save him.

It fits very well with a theory i have been pondering fore some time now.

"Red John" is dead because it became irrelevant. Jane is no longer struggling against his true nature of being a sociopath, a killer and possibly a real psychic. Ever since the new beginning Jane ceased cynically arguing against any possibility of the supernatural.

He defeated McAllister by pulling a pigeon out of his jacket. There is not much else more classical and cliche when it comes to stage magic then to have live bird appear out of nowhere.
















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Just something interesting to further back up the notion that the final word about Red John is not spoken yet:

Official twitter of Reed Diamond:

https://twitter.com/reeddiamond/status/439264991590350848

@reeddiamond Did you ever think you'd be Red John or did you think it was someone else?

@kentjohnson26: @reeddiamond Did you ever think you'd be Red John or did you think it was someone else?”
How do you know I'm not?"


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Taking visualize seriously.

This is not a RJ theory, just something
that might be fun to think about.

There is
one thing any observant viewer must have noticed:

When it comes to "The Mentalist" things are seldom
clearly one way or the other. When things are clear they often turn
out to be the opposite of what they were presented.

One of the great mysteries
of the show is certainly visualize. The way it is protrayed there are strong parallels to
Scientology. I would guess most people consider Scientology
both scary and ridiculous at the same time, especially after the
famous South Park episode explaining their ludicrous belief system.


Everything we see and hear about visualize draws a clear picture. Visualize seems like a wacky organization that is all about money and
power. They match allmost all of common cliches of a cult. Pompous
speeches by charismatic but fake leader, pseudo scientific gimmicks,
cult specific rhetoric "brother XYZ", internal power
struggels and so forth.

Now what is being accomplished by portraying visualize in this very definite way?

The message becomes irrelevant!

By making the case described above our mind is receiving the clear message: Don't bother paying attention to their message, it is irrelevant, it is just psycho blabber.

 Just for the fun of it let's do the opposite.

The first thing we learn about their message is Bret Stiles speech from S02E20:

"The eye is not just the window to the soul.
It is the key to unlocking your greatness.
It is the key, because when you see it, you will be it.
One more time.
The eye is not just the window to the soul.
It is the key to unlocking..."

Notice that the shows intro has changed from the beginning of season 2. The first thing we see after the 3 colored lines is Patrick Janes eye.

The second time we meet Stiles and Visualize is in S03E03:

"You see, if the mind is free...
...there's nothing that you can't achieve,
It's a spaceship with the power
to travel across all six dimensions...
because then the mind has no limits."

This seems pretty random at first sight, but there is well known theology professor in th UK by the name of Ninan Smart. He was featured as consultant in a BBC documentary about World Religions in the 70's. Other than that he is best know for defining a religion by a six dimensional scheme:

1.Doctrinal
2.Mythological
3.Ethical
4.Ritual
5.Experiential
6.Institutional




He introduces the six dimension in 1968 in the publication "Secular Education and the Logic of Religion". He added a 7th dimesion (Material) in 1989 "The Worlds Religions". There is even a little inside joke in the conversation between Jane and Stiles:

PJ: "Why offer only six dimensions?
Is it to hold off a couple of dimensions to sell later?

Stiles:"No. I think six is quite enough."

Later on in the same episode Patrick is reading "Visualize Life" and we get a quick peak at the text. Unfortunately some words are not readable, but it still paints an interesting picture:

"Truth and nothing but the Truth

You have eschewed this base level and I, again, congratulate you on ____ ___
for most lost souls out there even this basic step will never happen. You ___ ___
wayfarer yourself. You will travel many roads you have trod upon, but now ___
these very familiar pathways with keener eyes. DO NOT BE AFRAID. ______
the veil away can be startling, confusing,  and even a bit anoying, but if you ___
the course, I promise you will ultimately be rewarded in ways you can not even conceive of right now.

Like I said,  this journey will not be for the faint of heart. To be pure of mind (and) focused of action, takes unyielding vigilance. Thruthfull to a fault with yourself and your visualize bretheren is one of the best ways to keep integrity with yourself. Through your daily ventilations, you will free youself from negative energy and aspects that ____
licking their chops at the prospect of clouding your judgment and weakening your
resolve. You must endeavor never to hold back any thing, because the very act
immediately leads to your holding back of your own potential. 

At this point I want you to take a deep breath and dive in head first. You remember
your first experiences with large bodies of water, don't you? Whether is was at
____ or an ocean, there is always something a little daunting about it.____
_____ because of what lies beneath the surface. Unseen treasures
__________ the time you make the decision to go under____
________immerse yourself. It feels like a rush____
___________erve ending in your body is______
_____________ally start to make the e_____"




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Roy Tagliaferro is Patrick Jane!

Rosalind Harker is not blind!

Here is why:


1.) There is the timing in the scence
where Dumar is killed. It takes only 4-5 seconds from the time Dumar
rises until he dies. A couple seconds before we see Jane standing on
the veranda. The pumpgun he uses is Dumars that has been carried out
by a forensic tecnician to the van. From where Jane is standing it's a good
15 to 20 feet to the van. I doubt he could have made that shot
without knowing in advance what was going to happen.

2.) The piano scene

It is
a short scene around 26-27 min in. It's easy to miss, really deceptive in and very important on top of it.
 I have
seen that scene maybe 5 times and still missed the two most important aspects about it
until just now.


It starts off with the music playing showing the house in the
evening just after sunset with a light on in the living room:
 
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The
camera moves in to show Rosalind playing the piano. Behind her is the
armchair where the elephant sat before. Now it is empty except for
the cardigan she wore that day.

The light remains warm and yellowish as
the camera zooms in to show her play.

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The camera cuts to a different
angle. The light has changed from warm yellow articial light to a pale blue
tone of light like natural light. The position of the piano moved. The the piano was facing the wall behind her before and is
now positioned diagonally, also it is further away from the wall. Patrick Jane now sits in the armchair with a teacup in his hand listening with a
sad and thoughtful expression.

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So why is this scene so important? What do we learn?

Rosalind is not blind.

There is light in the living room. Why would a blind woman turn on the lights in the evening?

She wouldn't!

Rosalind does therefore she is not blind. There are more circumstantial hints as well. You can see spots on the wall where paintings were removed.

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Most of the time she stairs strait ahead, but during her talk with Jane and Lisbon she breaks character and turns her eyes to face Jane and Lisbon. 

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She even has the line: "I'm blind, but I'm not blind."

Second thing we learn: It's a flashback!
The only reasonable explanation for all the changes mentioned above is a flashback. As she plays the melody she remembers her time with Roy. That's the reason why we see Jane sitting in the same armchair the elephant (a symbol of memory) was in before.

3.) The
third major element for Roy being Jane is the piano music. It is the Prelude in C major
(BWV 846) from Bachs well tempered piano. The well tempered piano
consists entirely of Preludes and corresponding fugues. There are
actually two Preludes and Fugues in C major (BWV 846+870).

In the talk with Jane and Lisbon Rosalind
mentions that Roy admired Bach for his vigor.


The first time we get
to hear that melody is the piano scene, mentioned above.

The second timeit is played is after Dumar says: "Red John shhh" dies and
the camera starts to zoom out. It is played in the background until closing
credits of the episode.

It is played again in Season 2 as a CD recording in the room Hicks was found.

4.) Oranges
The forth element is the orange.
When Jane and Lisbon question Rosalind there are oranges on the table
one there are even some peeled slices right in front of Rosalind. In the very
last scene we see Jane walking to an orange tree, plucking one,
smelling on it and the proceeding to open it, all that while the prelude in c major slowly coming to an end.

If you look closely at
Patricks face you can see him reminiscing in that first piano scene
as well as the last. When Rosalind is talking about Thanksgiving his
facial expression screams "i am trying very hard to remember the
event you talk about".



There is a very odd shot at the end of the episode that seems very symbolic:

Jane very far away from the victims family, Lisbon inbetween and behind him a Highway Patrol Officer in his car as backup.

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It was Highway Patrol Officers who were transporting Rebecca Anderson when she got killed.

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The craziest f***ing thing I've come across so far.

Last night i
discovered something really stunning. I guess everybody has seen the
scene where the 3 dotted tatto is discovered at least once, some
including myself even multiple times. Jane does a lot of talking and gun
pointing. Shortly before the tattoos are revealed Jane as he said the
following:

"Kira Tinsley told me something before she passed. She
told me that her killer--Red John--has a tattoo. Three dots on his left
arm."

While Jane says all this we see his face and we can follow his lips as he says those lines.

After that there is a short sentence added: "On his shoulder"
The camera focuses on Bertram and Smith while these words are said.

Here comes the crazy part:

It is not Simon Bakers voice that says these words!

From what I heard it isn't the voice of any of five suspect sitting there either.

I
kind of suspect it's bruno hellers voice, but i am not sure. He usually
has a strong British accent, on the other hand he could have worked on
that so it doesn't give him away.

If you want to watch the scene
here is a youtube clip of it. The part i am talking about starts at 2:15
and the phrase in question is said arround 2:24-2:25.

sorry forgot the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LihOPlJQq7w

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Theory #17240 • By d666q_3
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The craziest f***ing thing I've come across so far.

Last night i discovered something really stunning. I guess everybody has seen the scene where the 3 dotted tatto is discovered at least once, some including myself even multiple times. Jane does a lot of talking and gun pointing. Shortly before the tattoos are revealed Jane as he said the following:

"Kira Tinsley told me something before she passed. She told me that her killer--Red John--has a tattoo. Three dots on his left arm."

While Jane says all this we see his face and we can follow his lips as he says those lines.

After that there is a short sentence added: "On his shoulder"
The camera focuses on Bertram and Smith while these words are said.

Here comes the crazy part:

It is not Simon Bakers voice that says these words!

From what I heard it isn't the voice of any of five suspect sitting there either.

I kind of suspect it's bruno hellers voice, but i am not sure. He usually has a strong British accent, on the other hand he could have worked on that so it doesn't give him away.

If you want to watch the scene here is a youtube clip of it. The part i am talking about starts at 2:15 and the phrase in question is said arround 2:24-2:25.

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I suspect Jane to have planted the bomb himself.

There has been much discussion about how the bomb made it into Janes house. In absence of any better way to make sense of it many have concluded, that the sheriff must have brought it in under his hat.

On the plus side hat offers a certain amount of space to hide things in, on the other that space is quite limited, especially if we choose to believe the statement about the additional concussion bomb.

The sheriff has been seen wearing that hat almost without exception, so other than the possible hiding space there is nothing suspicious about it.

Now I have discovered something I consider a better possibility for a hiding place.

There is an object hidden behind Haffner on the couch under the blanket. It is an object that wasn't there when Jane arrived at the house. It seems highly unlikely a suspect could get inside undetected with an object of that size.

This is what the sofa looked like when Jane arrived:

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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10mo58k&s=5#.Ut5oQLQ1i70

and this is what it looks like behind Haffner:

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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2m7ezdg&s=5#.Ut5owbQ1i70


There is a certain possibility Stiles was somehow involved in Janes plan. He arrives as the first of the suspects and since we don't see each individual text Jane sent out it is entirely possible that he was told to be there at an earlier time than the others. 

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