Who is Red John?

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There is a good reason why a lot of people think this was all a dream after episode 8.
It really seems like a false reality. Everything was rushed and patches together last second.
Nobody brought up red john hardly, the Ba a little, Visualize at all, and the cbi hitlist was never explained.

I think season 7 is where reality catches up to everyone. Jane is at an all time high and i glad the jisbon stuff has come and gone already. The only way for Jane to go is down.
Has everyone seem Dexter? I look at Jane and Lisbon as Dexter and Deb his sister who has incestuous thoughts about him. Which fits perfect cuz Jane and Lisbon are like bro and sis.
Dexter's lies and games finally caught up to him.
Who knows what Jane has manipulated. The guy is crazy and always gets what he wants.
He could have made the cbi hit-list and made everyone think it was haibach. Haibah only kidnapped Gvp no way he stabbed Ardilles like that.
My point is we really don't know where reality starts and illusion begins.
Jane crying after killing Macalister was weird to me only bc Jane was happy when he Killed Carter right?

Season 7 will be bloody. I sure hope it is too.
There is nothing else for the show to do then to revisit the past and what better time to do it then the encore season.
I bet you Heller and the team knew for a while they would get a season 7.
It was up in the air for us fans but i am sure Heller and cbs had it planned out.
With that being said why shoot your load too early? Save it for the true finale .
Season 7 will cover the plot holes. Styles and Haffner will be back. That tweet was not just a joke its all publicity.
And if Haffner is alive you know he has a few skeletons in his closet. And if he finds out his crush is with Jane he is gonna be pissed!
No way Macalister set off a concussion bomb. Knocked himself out and was able to get up and carry all those bodies himself and make a clean getaway before Lisbon showed up.
In reality he woulda been knocked out as long as everyone else especially since they all woke up at THE SAME EXACT TIME. Weird.

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Wha goes up must come down...

Jane is at an all time high. He killed his nemesis and got the girl of his DREAMS haha this could all be a dream.
This reminds me of Dexter. Dex always got what he wanted (mostly) and used people like toys just like Jane does. Pretty much everything Lisbon yelled at him for when he got caught lying in the finale.
Season 7 will be Jane slowly down-spiraling. Maybe he has a mental breakdown bc he is RJ or maybe it just all catches up to him. Dexters finale was the first time we saw Dexter as a bad guy or in the wrong. I think this will happen to Jane in season 7 and things will hopefully get dark again.

We all know the actor who plays Haffner said him n Styles will be back and although he kids, i believe him.
I see season 7 as the encore season where all the familiar faces will come back. Maybe Frye and Mashburn possibly or even Lorelie if she is still alive like the picture showed us.

Question: when Lorelie went to go kill Rj and got caught it seemed she was back into thinking he did not kill her sister again right? She seemed cool with him and happy with her fate. So who killed her sister? The BA of coarse.
I still think Lorelie gave Jane the list of 7 and that Jane never had a list but we will have to wait n see.

I think there were two Red Johns and nobody can tell me otherwise. The clues call for two completely different styles and reasons for murder.
When i saw the season finale i thought it was all over BUT thinking about season 7, i have an intuition "things will heat up". Haha

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I was never a big believer in this theory but seeing how things have played out, it looks like our last hope.
Jane is Red John. His relationship with Lisbon will end by her discovering this. If the show can get dark again, this is how you do it.

Seeing how easily Jane made that letter and spawned a case and conned everyone makes me believe how good he really is.
This whole Macalister Rj/BA thing could be a sham. Yea they were all guilty in their own ways but the way Jane cried after killing Macalister makes me wonder.
Ill never buy Macalister a sheriff, a serial killer, and the leader of the BA and control over thousands of people, would care so much about Patrick Jane.
I mean Red Johns whole serial killer career before Jane was a typical serial killer beginning.
BUT after he killed Janes family, Red John literally only acted when Jane was involved in some way. Macalister had a lot on his plate and i doubt he would base his whole serial killer life on Patrick Jane.
Think back of all the things Rj did season 1-5 and of course 6.
Rj only does stuff with Jane involved.
His daughter saying "does anyone know who you are " will always haunt me.

A post earlier talked about why the Rj Story line failed and i agree. Its all politics. Freye, Lorelie, Styles, etc were RJ people for story lines. Season 1 Heller had to keep rj identity a mystery bc what if all the characters in the rj story get a different job? The show for some reason couldn't lock down all these characters so the Rj story had to evolve. Im sure if Freye signed a deal the story would went a different way but things change in business.
Politics ruin most things.

Ps: possible jane cons.
There are always so many holes in cases. Haibach for instance is a great example. He hardly knew 85 percent of that Cbi hitlist. He was not a killer and doesnt seem like he would stab Ardilles like that. Or have the means to spy and bug all those people. I always thought haibach decided to take Grace AFTER he was brought in for questioning. He didnt hire an armed hitman to Gvps and Rigsbys house, no he wanted to kidnap her to trap Lisbon and Jane.

So that brings me to Jane. Lets say he is crazy and likes to make things up. Jane makes the hitlist. Kills Ardilles and La Roche bc of crazy Jane reasons. Which he then sways the team into thinking Haibach did it without actually saying it. Maybe Jane knew Haibach would snap and Kidnap Gvp or maybe Jane hypnotized him, he is crazy remember. I got the impression that hired gun was trying to miss. Now i know i am not alone with this thought so its at least plausible to think about. A wide open shot on a man holding a baby and he hits the baby bag. Nice shot ace! Jane could of set this up to bring Gvp and Rigsby to Texas.
Haha this is just a fantasy but the Haibach saga did not add up at all. The man wantes revenge on Lisbon and her team. Not a bunch of nobodies from Cbi and La Roche plus Ardilles? Wtf did La Roche do?

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Up next for love is Cho. Cho like bad bitches too so hopefully hell be able to lock one down.
I watch this show for the laughs. I dont expect it to be dark ever again.
Lisbon would have to be murdered for that to happen.

Honestly season 7 will be hilarious. Cho and Abbott banter is close to the Rigsby Cho classic convos.
Jane and Lisbon fighting like a married couple will be great too.
If your looking for a dark twisted serial killer show this is not it.
I admit the red john stuff will ALWAYS leave a bad taste in my mouth but i am over it. Sort of.
I like this show because it is stupid and goofy. It always was except for the Rj stuff.
I want a new bad guy. A panzer type who makes the audience quiver.

This whole season was rushed. Cbs pressure for ratings made heller shit out the rj stuff.
I dont know why he wanted to make us disappointed. I thought he would go for the opposite of that but what the heller do i know!
Hopefully season 7 brings back Styles thats my last hope.

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Ok when i first heard Alex Shultz name i got excited, but it fizzled into a non issue quite quickly.
I cant front, i enjoyed Jisbon. Awkward yes. Forced yes. But i really dont care.
This show is not to be taken too seriously at all. Its goofy but i like it. Abbott and Cho crack me up and Jane and Lisbon arguing as a couple will be hilarious next season.
If you wanna know what this show is great at its red herrings. People bet their lives Partridge was rj and still do lol.
At the same time a person would bet their lives that Haffner was rj or even Cbi Ron. There is a reason for that. Its called great writing . Making so many characters seems like the bad guy is not easy and they succeeded in that.
We were disapointed at Rj just like Jane was. I guess that was the point. Our imaginations and expectations were too high i guess.

BUT who knows what will happen in season 7. It wouldnt be the first time a show brought its villian back from the dead. Or maybe well get a new villian who is cooler than red john. Someone who doesnt use a taser and have man crushes on mentalist.

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Ok i just saw the preview and i have to admit i am about 99 percent were all gonna be disappointed.
But it strikes me as weird that Jane would run after the plane. I mean yea he could be sad and just try and give that one big speech before she takes off but its too late but i think its more than that. He knows she is leaving and can give that speech at any time why as she is taking off?
What does Jane learn to make him look so distraught and race to catch her flying away. Were in for a cliffhanger people. Lisbon is on trouble. Pike although maybe not Red John may be a serial killer himself. He said he was married before how did they end? Does jane find he was married to 5 woman who all disappeared?
Its a stretch i know but i also know jane wouldn't chase down a plane just to say i love you. Not his bag.

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If Heller bring back Styles think of all the possibilities that could occur?
I dont think him being alive is so far fetched too. If mac faked his death why couldn't Styles!
He was on the run from the fbi what better way to evade them than to become a ghost.
If Styles comes back the story line could go in 1000 different ways.
Maybe we will finally know what happened at Janes house.
Before the bomb when all the magic happened.
Lisbon eluded to Styles being alive saying "i thought he would survive Armageddon ".
And that was the only reference we have had of him which is weird.
Lets face it that actor is a ratings boost by himself.
I would love to see him again.

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