Who is Red John?

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Natalia aka miss styles:

And anyway, just to let you know..If it wasn't for me, nobody would give a shit about you..You are just a crazy weirdo, who keeps posting on this site because he doen't have a real life..:( it's quite sad really..The saddest thing is; you have absolutely no idea everyone thinks you are a sad, lonely, sick weirdo...:(
8:03 p.m., Sunday Feb. 9

......My response:
Umm i am pretty sure people know me from my posts and not you. Thats delusions of grandeur on your part:)
How am i a crazy weirdo? Please explain yourself... if your going to throw around playground names like were 8 years old back them up!
And why is it that i have no life for coming to the same site you do? Its only a sad thing to do if i do it but when you come on here its cool? At least i contribute ! You come on here and talk shit on the mentalist and say how great sherlock is on a mentalist site!!! And you use my name a lot in your posts, obsessed much? You keep using words like "we" and "everyone" and i am wondering who named you spokesperson for all people ? Your last post got 4 likes .
You call me names like a child and you have no idea who i am or anything about my life .
And you dont even talk about sherlock other than saying you like it . You could at least break down a scene or episode!
If you don't like the mentalist thats fine but dont come on a mentalist fan site, talk shit on the show and call people who still love the show crazy just for having their own theories!
And keep my name out your mouf!

Sorry to everyone else but i have a problem with letting people say stuff without consequence ....this can keep you occupied since the show is still on hiatus lol.

And Red John is coming ...

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I know im beating a comatose horse here but Kira Tinsley proves Macalister was not red john and that the real red john hired her.

Firstly , Visualize did not hire her . Visualize has Ray Haffner as their head spy. He was already keeping tabs on cbi whenever he pleased plus jane believed cooper when he said visualize was not using her...
The ba would not need her either ! After all these years and connections red john aka the BA used a dizzy broad to clumsily drop a bug on CHOS'S desk one random day? Makes no sense ...
I think Tinsley was hired to die and utter he famous last words ...no name...just "he had a tattoo on his left arm". Thats a whole sentence !

Also i think the usb in bertams room is a lot bigger then we think.
IT WAS NOT BERTRAMS USB HE DID NOT KNOW IT WAS THERE.
Its evidence against major players in the BA and it was planted there.

A few posts ago someone mentioned the movie "North by Northwest". Its the flick styles and patrick watch at the theatre . Its about a guy who is posing as another guy who has a file to take down major names in the goverment . And a secret society was after him for it .
Remember how the fbi all the sudden was after styles on a case that was 30 years old? Well maybe they made their move cuz they found out Styles had info on people . The usb was planted on bertam bc they knew cbi would find it when searching for Bertram.

A file that only Patrick can decipher...march 9th!

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Has anyone ever read "a tale of two cities" and know how it could pertain to Red John?
I know there are twins in the book but i saw jane reading it one episode .

Side note: Olaughlin, Timothy Carter, Hightowers Murdered bf, all worked for the BA.
The real red john hates the ba and was using Todd Johnson to kill some of them.
Haffner may of been BA as well to Visualizes dismay.

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So why was the BA and Bertram helping kirkland find Lorelie? Bertram let Kirkland into the investigation and was completely on his side. Kirkland was like living in Bertrams office haha he would just appear from a dark corner in the room.
Why would the BA want lorelie in homelands hands ?
I believe Miranda was killed by the BA. The BA uses the name red john from time to time and could haven even coined the phrase red john or at least kept it going. Maybe thats why on the episode list s6ep8 is called "red john" with quotations kinda like the "idea" of "red john" is dead.
The real Red john probraly told Lorelie about the BA and how they steal girls, rape them, and kill them. Timothy carter is a great example. Carter could of been one of many FAKE Red john acquaintances. The real red john has layed low for years as Partridge said.
Olaughin worked for BA not red john in my opinion. He did strike me as a "red john is my god" type.
Red john had no reason to kill her Hightower! None! Plus he sent two assassins instead of himself and failed . Since when does he fail?

The Ba wanted her framed and or dead or both. Why? Maybe she uncovered them along with her cop bf that todd Johnson killed...or her bf was a member of the BA himself and thats why todd killed him. Todd unlike Olaughlin seemed like a typical red john follower . He said there was a "big picture" jane was missing . Maybe the big picture is the BA and Todd was taking them out . And his girlfriend was a gift for Red john. Seems like something he would ask for from a follower . Jane was asked to bring Lisbons head.

Ps. Ever notice how red johnish cbi ron's voice is?

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I know a lot of people have said the mentalist has ripped off other shows well listen to this.
The hbo show "true detectives" with Mathew maconahey and Woody Harleson is a really good show but it is just like the mentalist in many ways.
Main character lost his daughter , cant sleep, and can see right thru people. Same religious views as jane as he could care less. Very pessimistic view of life and humans.
He is looking for a serial killer with his partner woody harelson who has a lot of accolades and plays things by the logical book.
The serial killer kills woman and uses cult like tattoos and symbols on the victim. He or she most likely is part of a crazy church in a red barn like southern setting. His followers call him god.
There is a BA like political pull and push putting pressure on the investigation. A religious head of church type guy has a lot of power . Friend of mayor. Seems evil.

It made me even more pumped up for the mentalist cuz i know Macalister was NOT godlike or had the mental fortitude to be a crazy serial killer with followers who would die for him happily and not gang members like the BA.

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I was never convinced that patrick jane was red john.
I definitely thought about it but concluded that it was impossible but sometimes it does seem to be true.
In the season 4 finale when jane is in the warehouse he is reading Modern Man in Search of a Soul” from C. G. Jung.
That book is abouy dreams the subconscious and split personalities .
The camera went on the book for a while so the viewer could see.
Jane never sleeps but its funny that he slept the most when in bed with lorelie . 12 hours !
I dont think jane killed his family but who knows anymore .
Maybe jane sent lorelie to himself and told her to tell him about the handshake but i doubt it .
Def cool to think about .

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Red john guesses janes list or so we think he did.
He tells jane he is going to start killing again frequently .
So what does jane do? He tells lisbon EVERYTHING !!!
Jane the guy who knows that red john kills anyone who has any info about him tells Lisbon about the list...
No way in HELL jane would put Lisbon in harms way. The question is , jane knowing lisbon would track the suspects, what was he up too? How did he know Lisbon would be spared ?

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