Who is Red John?

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I forget who on this site brought up the many pineapple references in the show.
You were not kidding, there are tons of pineapple mentions throughout the whole series!
Heller does hate pineapples or at least finds them to be evil.

One thing i realized was that Van Pelt and Rigsby like pineapple on their pizza.
Cho dont f with that ish!!

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Did they ever PROVE that olaughlin set todd Johnson on fire ?
Or did they just ASSUME he did it cuz he turned out to be working for red john or the BA?
Also did they ever explain how someone made a man burst into flames ?
No cameras? Anybody carrying a gas can? Did they even use gas ?
Olaughlin did seem well versed in fire starting when he figured out how jane did the candle trick but still no camera showed him doing it?
Rigsby is an arson specialist and whoever made janes house blow up knew a few things about bombs and fire as well.
Also the indian convenient store owner episode showed red john use bombs again.

I don't expect any answers just some stuff on my mind .

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The mere thought that red john was BA makes no sense for many reason but here are a few that struck me recently.....
The BA owns law enforcement . They in return for allegiance, make sure all of your legal woes go away like Reede smith said. Shen you get caught, they kill you to keep the secret going.
**Red john however, works differently . He through lorelie told jane he could have a brand new life . New name new identity and new everything. A new name an identity is NOT something the BA would do. They own law enforcement so no need to .
Red john is not a fan of law enforcement and like other underground killers and criminals have ways to change identities and whatnot.
-Timothy carter comes to mind.
The first person killed in the pilot was a plastic surgeon.
I believe he was killed for more than just getting mad at his colleague for feeding starving african children!
Just a thought


My point is that the BA uses law or stretching the law for their member s to have clean records.
Red john is a vigilante that uses criminal ways to change whole identities. Big difference .

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I think the fact that Jane asking for a trailer as one of his demands proves a few cool things.
1: Jane most likely knew the fbi would reach out to him making this idea he "moved on" silly.
2: Jane when he receives the trailer will no doubt give it to his carnie friends who were sending lisbon letters for him.
I think the key to catching red john is in janes carnie past and whenever that episode happens its gonna be great.

Also the fbi is the belly of the beast. Jane knows red john had people in the fbi. jane is in the belly of the beast for very good reason. He wanted the fbi to shut down the cbi and its all working great.
Macalister was NOT RED JOHN! He may of used red johns persona but he is not the real deal.

Also, the scene where lisbon and rigsby fake their deaths and jane meets red john was a huge clue.
Mr jane always asks me how can rigsby be red john if he was with the team when it all went down. Well rigsby may be a follower or used a voice recording for that scene . IF THE HOME ALONE KID CAN DUPE ROBBERS WITH A RECORDING RED JOHN CAN!!!!! Remember the talkboy? Lol

Anyway Rigsby went out shadily for nachos right before the meeting . Could he of warned red john or set that bike up for jane? Like i said before the bike had a toe tag on it , the same found on fake rigsbys toe in the morgue.
How the hell did RJ steal Wayneright ? He was at cbi?
Cbi ron maybe.

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I dont think jane is roy but i think there is much more to the roy story.
For some reason red john wanted jane to meet rosalind and find out the name roy.
I dont trust her or any red head in the show.
Kristina freye is not to be trusted.

Red john could be a group of vigilante women for all we know.
When kristina stood up for red john saying "but patrick you lied about him"
I knew right then she was evil. Who says that?

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Theory #17274 • By Stoopkid
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Todd johnson was a strange character.
I have a feeling todd did not kill his own girlfirend and that it was a sacrifice for red john but i may be wrong.
The cops that he killed may of been BA .
The dad of the daughters taken by red john and dumar in season 1 was old money run the town BA type too.
A part of me thinks red john is waging war with the BA and not a member or leader of it himself.

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Why did Abbot question Lisbon about janes whereabouts if he already had agent fisher watching him?
Fisher keeps saying that she was hired to watch patrick but never says by the fbi.
Abbot also says he was ready to search the whole island for jane but didnt have to cuz jane came to him.
If fisher had his exact location why would he have to do this ?
She is an odd character . It seemed like jane taking off his wedding ring for their date really struck strong with fishers emotions. She made great tea too and was reading a book about the lies of history created by the ruling class.
Would you be suprised if she was red johns daughter or a follower ?

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