Who is Red John?

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Is it maybe possible that there are 2 red johns? Hear me out...

The real red john has visualize-like followers.
Meaning that they seem brainwashed , they look at red john as a God . They speak as if he is bret styles actually. On a quest of love and stuff like that.
*red john followers commit suicide or happilly get killed after they are caught. They key word is happy. And they never talk. Ever. At most they say tiger tiger and thats it.

Macalister the BA Red john. This guy created a secret society of cops,
Judges, lawyers, and basilly law enforcement. The BA do not seem brainwashed . They have no real doctrine or mission statment. They dont care about "love" at all. They like
money and power and and cover up illegal law rnforcment infractions.
When they get caught they do NOT go easy or happy. They got shot in the back and are told the opposite .
They also talk in more instances of red john followers when pressured by real law enforcement.

*Maybe Macalister used the persona of Red john becuase
1. He thought the real red John was dead
2. He thought the real red john retired(partridge even said
"The real red john hasnt killed in years".
3 He didnt give and shit about the real red john becuase macalisters identity was a secret.
Using serial killer is great distraction to cover up certain murders and stear police in the wrong direction.

**Maybe the real red john has a more "visualize" upbringing.
Maybe he/she hasnt killed in years and is laying low.
The real red john seemed to stear patrick to the BA.
He gave patrick clues which lead to the BA being exposed and taken down.
The real red john was very angry with the BA for using his name and being currupt in general.

I know it sounds crazy but you have to admit there does seem to be a big difference between the red john followers and the BA.
The church scene is a great example:
Cordero is BA and that crazy lady was a typical red john follower.
Macalister didn't seem to know she was even there .

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Outside the box.

There has yet to be a good explanation of how redjohn guessed janes list.
I dared to use my imagination and thought that maybe lorelie and jane made the tape together .
I came to this conclusion by watching jane then watching Lisbon, and then looking at cause and effect.

-Jane was not affected by this crazy turn of events. The word apathetic seems to fit his response to the whole situation.
-Lisbon on the other hand flips the f out ! As of coarse jane knew she would.
-Lorelie congratulates jane for having such a great memory to remember all those names and narrow it to 7.
Then she says "take out your list of 7, ill wait".
-so jane needs his list of 7 to remember even after he narrowed a list of thousands to 7??
-The tape was made for Lisbon!!
-lisbon freaks out and jane being so apathetic made her flip out even more.
--JANE KNEW LISBON WOULD TELL THE TEAM. This is jane 101
Telling someone not to do what he knows they will do anyway. Jedi mind tricks.
-jane wanted Lisbon to tell the team.
This led to cbi being shut down after all 7 suspects were dealt with.
-van pelt and rigsby are the most hurt by this turn of events. They freaked out!
-jane didnt care at all that cbi was shut down.

Thats how i see it, call me names i dont care . Dare to believe !

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Just watched the ep where red john left a message on the cbi database of him watching agent darcy.
You have to admit it was wierd that grace just so happen to be at cbi late at night at the exact time red john left this message .
Jane says "grace why are you here "? She says with a weird face "i dont know , just had to do some stuff ".
The message was in real time so if grace wasnt there it wouldnt if worked .
Weird right ?

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Thomas macalister is red john and bruno heller sucks so bad .

What if EVERY post looked like this?
This is what you want me to write ?
I am entitled to my opinion as are you.
But why rain on our parade ? Just to be mean?
You cant prove me wrong and i cant prove you wrong .
Just leave it at that and LET US POST WHAT WE WANT WITHOUT BEING CALLED NAMES !!!

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Theory #16921 • By Stoopkid
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To mr jane
You have asked me that question 3 times and i have said i dont know each time.
He may of used accomplices .

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Lorelei read a list to Lisbon.
Lisbon freaked out and jane acted like he hardly cared.
Jane when asked what to do , said he was "thinking about trains " and "pecan pie" on another occasion.
Jane never tells Lisbon dangerous info.

Lisbon tells van pelt.
Van pelt answers the phone "hey boss" then acts weird so Rigsby thinks she is having an affair . Jealous much?
Van pelt tells Rigsby then Rigsby tells cho.
The gps trackers are secretly put on each suspect without their knowledge.
Lisbon gets a call.
Lisbon is taken and "marked"

***How is Red John find out ?
The answer can be 2 things:
1. Red john is magic and psychic.
2. SOMEONE ON THE TEAM IS RED JOHN OR A MOLE.

It is pretty simple really .
If you re-watch "the desert rose" you will notice how little patrick jane cares that red john guesses the list.
The same apathy can be found when the fbi shuts down cbi. Jane hardly cares at all.

Do you see the con?
Fast forward to now . Jane is in the fbi with lisbon and cho.

Do you see the con?
This is Jane 101.

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I just watched "the red headed stepchild" from season 4 i think.
Its the one about prison and rigsbys dad.

Now i could care less if you disagree but this episode proves to ME that Rigsby is red john.
When Mr Rigsby uses his knife you see wayne's eyes just crumble.
Wayne Rigsby was majorily abused by his dad and most likely made all life decisions to be nothing like his dad . But you know how that goes ? He is prob just like his crazy ass dad deep inside.

The other thing that seemed to stand out was when MR Rigsby said "weakness is in the eyes boy"
Wayne made a face like he has heard that 1000 times before. I immediately thought about the rj smiley face and how it bleeds from the eyes.

Jane's elaborate plan was to get cbi shutdown. The only reason red john has been one step ahead is because he is Rigsby or Rigsby is one hell of an accomplice .
Jane has not moved on at all. He is playing a con and its almost completed .
He wanted Lisbon and cho by his side and wanted Rigsby and van pelt far away.

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