Who is Red John?

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Orville TANNER was rjs first accomplice.
He owned the TANNER farm with the red barn.
Dumar TANNER was a sheriff and also a rj follower.
Jack TANNER had the surfer daughter who was murdered and might of been with dumar at rosalines house .
Grace VAN PELTS last name translates to TAMMER!

Weird when olaughlin said he knew her father Amos van pelt.
He said he played against him in college football.
He made a sad serious face and said "tell your dad he's remembered "
Which is a weird thing to say so seriously for a coach he never met and only played against once !
Theres a lot of football connections including haffner playing as well.
He is man is in my mind heisman. We will find out soon.

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Plot holes in my head
Lorelie martins went to kill red john for killing and RAPING HER SISTER . Now red john is not a rapist first if all. He is a pimp who gets women to do anything for him.


Lorelie went to see rj to kill him yet when she made the video she said red john is very mad for me telling you that you guys shook hands!? So hes not mad she tried to kill him? Or maybe she never tried ?
I believe tiger tiger killed her sister and macalister was "playing" red john raped her . He seems like a rapist right? Remember he tried to rape van pelt basically ?

And the biggest clue was the giant picture of a woman with the word ALive written on it right before you see her body without her throat slit ;)

My point: red john isnt a rapist look it up
Did tt make her make the video?
Or maybe rj and lorlie were just giving jane clues about tiger tiger. Questionable .


The mere thought that red john has a 3 dot tattoo is insane .
And ever THINK THAT MACALISTER doesn't read BLAKE AT ALL!!
Doesnt strike me as a man who sips tea and reads at all right ?

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Theory #16621 • By Stoopkid
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Roy tagliafera was jack tanner.
You would have to assume that jack tanner was related to orville tanner and dumar tanner . No reason to use that name for a pointless character like jack unless it meant something .
Season 1 ep 3 jacks daughter hope a surfer was murdered.
Jack tanner whos wife died was seeing rosaline while he was building a new farm (smells of pine)
He was related to dumar tanner who helped him build the farm and visited rosaline with him.
Red john stayed close with the tanner family including orville his first accomplice, in jail.
*red john knew that jane would go to rosalines house
If rosaline had any info on rj he would kill her or at least make sure jane doesnt know he was there .
Since rosaline had no real info except stuff that would lead jane astray, red john drew his mark making jane assume rj was the man rosaline deacribed.

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I think that Red john was never roy tagliafaro. He just drew the face to throw jane off coarse. This gets confusing but it has to do with the tanner family . This name comes up a lot . They owned the visualize farm. The brother of tanner comes into play in the dumar episode. Tanner was building the farm, this is why he smells of pine . He was with Rosalind during this time . Then red john bought the farm as dumar says .
When rosaline said he left without saying why or returning is because his daughter was murdered. I forget what episode it was but he had to be with his family when this happened. Red john was messing with jane by putting the smiley face there .
Think about it . Why would he be bangin Rosalind and then draw a face . If he was with her he would wanna hide it. BUT he wasnt with her and drew his mark to show jane that he was there.

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Theory #16603 • By Stoopkid
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I have pages of theories and clues about van pelt and rigsby being red john.
Something that just popped out at me blew my mind.
I never noticed it before and i may be overreacting but tell me what u think?

**the red john smiley face has very distinct eyes . They are always the same and very close together . The eyes are closer together than a typical smiley face.
So, these three things popped in my head and ill share
1. Close eyes kinda like a t rex? (Jane called rigsby that)
2. Close eyes sort of like wayne rigsby's actual face .
3. Close just like haffners actual face

Take a look and tell me who pops into you mind
A lot of people always say its janes face but thats not true since the face dates pre jane being sad .

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Red john is wayne rigsby. Thats why he has bren so weird this season. This is why janr hasnt said two words to rigsby all season. Why he helped the fbi. Why he and van pelt were scared when the fbi got there .
They are both in visualize .
They will be killed this season by my guess lisbon.

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New guy will decode bertrams usb like u said but he will turn out to be a follower of red john. Thats why he found jane, hes looking for him. And he may be related to rigsby aka mr red john

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