Who is Red John

So i just watched ep08 and i'm kind of disappointed.. especially because the german (i'm from Germany) voice of McAllister is so stupid. The voice makes him look so dumb.. you could compare it to the english voice of doofy from scary movie... omg >.< I guess I won't watch the german version of this season when it airs for the first time..

I know the real (english) voice of McAllister is not that stupid, but it sill bugs me that he is RJ. What's with all the clues we gathered troughout these 5 seasons? He doens't fit most of them at all.. and if they come up with something like "uhh.. yeah mr/mrs XXX lied, he/she was told by RJ to give PJ some fake informations".. that's bs! RJ was supposed to be the napoleon of crime, the counterpart of Sherlock Holmes if you want! And then we get some crybaby that begs for mercy after he got disarmed by a freaking pigeon!!! A PIGEON!!! what the Hell(er)?! Where's the master of mind games? Where's the person who was ALWAYS one step ahead of PJ? Why do we get an episode called "Red John" where there's like "30min driving around and catching up" bs-fillers and in the end we get a little 10min sequenz where RJ is unmasked, tricked and finally killed. Did we actually wait 6 years for an 10min ending of the RJ-arc?! Damn it.. the finale of season 3 was way more better. RJ as a new character that was played so well by Timothy Carter.

I guess Brett Patrigde was RJ in the beginning. But people started to find out and Heller was told to run the show for some more seasons. So he changed the character for RJ. But McAllister.. come on. He was the ultimate red herring.

There's still a little bit of hope that this thing could turn out like the season 3 finale. That McAllister is not RJ, but just pretended to be.. but I dont think that something like this would happen twice a series.. :(

There are still some questiones unanswered:
- Why doesn't McAllister care if Gale Bertram would be accused to be RJ? We learned in season 2 finale that he can't stand it when other people take credits for his work
- Why on earth did he lose to PJ (roc, papers, scissors)?. Don't tell me it was HIS mind game and he always knew what PJ was doing, so he always took the wrong decision on purpose..
- Why would women like Lorelei Martins fall for a man like him?.. come on..
- Where's the "He is Mar.." - connection?
- How did he find out the 7 names? (i guess this will be answered in the next episodes)

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Why did PJ touch the FBI supervisor?

green: to start/end an hypnosis
red: to get the letter with the authorization to shut down the CBI department

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What if RJ is no one on the list of 7? What if PJ knows that and tries to not just kill RJ but defeat him all the way from the basis to the top. He wants to crush him by revealing the whole tyger-tyger-organisation and its wirepuller RJ who blackmailed cops, judges and other people so they work for him. These people even don't know that he's a serial killer. Even Smith said that you get a phone call and asked to do something and you do it unqestioningly. He also mentioned that the tyger-tyger organisation is aware of it that RJ is a member too.

He also set a trap by saying that Bertram is RJ. The real RJ would never ever accept it that some other guy is getting famous with HIS work.

Besides we know that he doesnt want to kill PJ, he wants to play a game with him. Wouldnt he protect PJ when Bertram was about to kill him? The only person who got in the way was Lisbon (hint?). Or wouldnt he care if some random guy killed his "lifelong" friend PJ?

We also don't know what happend in the house. "Wait, no!".. who said this and why? I hope we get an answer next week.

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Sooo, I just watched Episode 07 and I think Bertram is definitely NOT
RJ. He is the "Great Red Dragon", the leader of the Blake-association.
He has the list of ALL members. But would'nt that be stupid to not take
the data with him when he was in this room getting some money and stuff?
Perhaps it's a secret message for other members? Why on earth would
anybody leave behind such important information WITH the proper key?
Doesn't he care anymore?

There might be some false information
about the "deaths" of Bret Stiles, Ray Haffner and Sheriff McAllister.
One of them could easily fake his death by using some DNA of himself
(like cutting off something of his body) and pretend to be died due to
the explosion. IF RJ is really one of the 3 person with the tattoo, that
would mean that Sheriff McAllister could have brought some kind of
explosive belt with him. That would also explain the death of Bret
Stiles and Ray Haffner who were sitting right next to him. So McAllister
could still be alive and a RJ suspect.

But there are still some questions that bug me:
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Why did Bob Kirkland kill the RJ helper? (s05e18) He could have asked
him some important questions? Maybe he would tell him something, a
little hint or whatever (like lorelei martins). But why kill him almost
immediately after finding out that he obviously never met his twin
brother? In s06e04 he tells PJ that he thinks that his brother is dead
and that he was in contact with RJ. Did he find out throughout the
series or did he always knew? It seemed to me that he already knew it
from the beginning. So why alsways this questions? Can anyone explain?

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In s06e07 PJ meets "Bob" Kirkland for the first time. Some people say
it's his twin brother Michael because this is the only time we see him
with a beard. Maybe he's still alive and working for RJ because he is
indepted to him after he "cured" him from his alcohol addiction. I
don't know much about this theory but i wanted you to share your
thoughts about it^^

- Who is the spy within the CBI that always
gets the information right away and tells RJ/Tyger,Tyger? CBI Roy? The
old/new press officer?

- Why does Lisbon always seem creepy to
me? xD I always thought, and still think somehow that she has something
to do with all this RJ and/or Tyger,Tyger business.Maybe she's not
involved directly but some kind of "story" between her and
RJ/Tyger,Tyger that maybe she's not even aware of? I just have a strange
feeling about her. But perhaps she just cares soooo much for PJ and
thats what seems creepy to me lol^^

- The voice RJ used
throughout the entire series sounds a lot like Bob Kirklands (hint for
the whole twin and symmetry stuff?). Some people say it's just Simon
Bakers modified voice. I think we can't tell?

- How the hell did
RJ guess the list month before PJ? (granted that it's not a trap of PJ)
The only person we know of who entered that room would be Lisbon. That
does at least explain how he could know about the suspects (if she's a
helper) but that still doesn't show us how RJ could know it month before
him. Or maybe the CBI spy (CBI Roy?) broke in like Homeland Security did?

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Why did Lisbon have a broken hand in s05e22/s06e01? Did the actress
hurt herself or was this part of the show? Does anyone know?

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Some people say RJ was revealed in the promo of episode 08. I dont want
to watch it now lol. But I don't think they would be that stupid to
reveal him already in the promo. That's bullshit. Sooo, is it save to
watch it or not? I dont want to get spoiled >.<

I hope
we will see some flashbacks and stuff (after the RJ-finale) how PJ found
out about the true identity of RJ and how he set up traps to catch him.
There are still a lot of points that need to be answered

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Theory #8084 • By Patches

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Hey guys,I'm here for like 2 weeks and read almost every theory about RJ. I'm not sure who red john really is, but I'm very sure about the point that Lisbon has something to do with him, wether she's an actual helper or just a "spy" that looks after PJ.

Do you remember the scene with the boy who got cut out his tounge? (sorry, I forgot se + ep) He wanted to say something to/about Lisbon but wasn't able. She looked and kind of "smiled" at him in a strange way. In the latest episode Lisbon had that same strange look again when PJ stated that RJ has a tattoo on his shoulder. Maybe she's concerned about how much PJ already knows? Maybe the list that PJ gave her is fake, or at least half true and Lisbon realizes that PJ knows way more than he's telling her and the whole team.

Maybe PJ is also aware of the tyger tyger organization and that's why he put all those on the list. Remember the other fake list where he put some bad people on it that didnt deserve to live? Maybe it's the same again, but that would be kind of repetitiv. That's why I think, that RJ is not on THIS list, but on the list in PJ's head. For all I know, Bruno Heller said that we could trust the list, but that doesnt necessarily mean that he's actually on that list.. sooo I dont know. Proof me right if I'm wrong^^

I also believe, that RJ is part of the tyger tyger organization, but none of them knows. He has also a connection to visualize. Some rumors say that RJ is the son of Bret Stiles, who's also the father of PJ. So that could explain that symmetry thing with all that "tyger tgyer".. RJ and PJ as evil vs. good.

I hope some people can find some more hints for my Lisbon theory and comment here^^ and sorry for my english, it's not my first language

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